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stevie blakloks



Joined: 01 May 2007
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Breed: ESS

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: HPR QUERRY Reply with quote

Do you guys use your hprs for picking up in shoots and beating etc or are most hprs for falconry or can they be used for both because when i eventually do take up falconry i would hope to get an hpr that would be able to do both. ( the falconrys getting held up just now as i have a 10 month old springer to train- first time training a gundog!!!!!!!!!) Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

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windem bang



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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Location: central scotland

Breed: g.s.p. - brit.- labs.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can be and are used for both.

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countrygirl



Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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Location: Wilthshire

Breed: GWP'S

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MY ex husband used our first wire for both, and I use mine for pocking up

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sako75



Joined: 24 May 2007
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Location: Stonehaven , Aberdeenshire

Breed: weimaraner

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or are most hprs for falconry


No , I would say the majority of HPR's (on here at least) are used in many different ways. Yes , some are used for falconry but probably most are used as rough shooting dogs.

There are many areas where HPR'S can be used effectively such as  grouse counting , picking up on shoots , deer stalking / tracking , beating (although not ideal unless the ground suits their range) and probably their bread and butter - the walked up rough shooting dog. I use my weimaraners for walked up shooting and I like the fact that they pre-warn me the presence of game by holding a point and letting me get ready for the shot before the bird is flushed on command. A total different experience than say shooting over spaniels for example where a bird can be produced without prior warning.

The HPR suits my needs as a rough shooter and basically that is all that matters , what suits the individuals needs.


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stevie blakloks



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the info guys but being pointers do they not range to far out in front? I like to keep my spaniel bout 10-15 yards out but ive been told pointers tend to hunt further out.
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kiwi



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the type of hpr.
big running breeds like gsp's can hunt further out like english pointers but breeds like britts are able to hunt closer all day.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cheers for the info guys but being pointers do they not range to far out in front?


They do range further than your typical spaniels but this is not a problem if the dog has been taught to "hold" its point. By that I mean the dog effectively stays on point until you (the gun) have reached the dog and then sent it in to flush once you are right beside the dog. No use having an HPR that is 100yards out in front bumping game left right and centre.


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Helen
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Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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Breed: GWP, English Setter, ESS, Pointer

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the couple of times I took my gwp beating (to get experience) I was constantly keeping her in all the time.  I am using her for grouse counting and wanting to shoot over her next season so don't want her hunting close like my spaniels do.  I have spaniels for beating and the pointing breeds for other jobs.  However, if you only have an hpr, they can do both, although not ideal.  There are a few threads on here about beating with your hpr.

What hpr breed are you looking at?  

Helen
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stevie blakloks



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I intially was going to go for a britt but was reading shooting times last week and they had an article on an hpr practice day and there were hungarian vizlas (smooth) and they just look really striking and i was impressed by them so its between the 2
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Someone that I know put me off Vizla's by telling me that their's had stripped
the plaster off the kitchen wall and that others they had known also liked doing this Twisted Evil
Whereas, Brittanys don't tend to do this they do other stuff instead Exclamation
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