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Warwick



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
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Location: Oxford

Breed: Korthals Griffon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Korthals Griffon Reply with quote

I thought I'd better move out of the 'hello' section, but no specific KG breed section, what's wrong with you all? I thought everyone had one!
Anyway John has helped me post some pics so here are a few. I'm afraid I can't really give any good info about working KG's from personal experience as Rufus is only 10 months and we are just getting started.



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Warwick



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Location: East Sussex/Kent border

Breed: KG x's x 2 - Grey x 1 - GSD x 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Korthals Griffon Reply with quote

[quote="Warwick"]No specific KG breed section, what's wrong with you all? I thought everyone had one!
I'm afraid I can't really give any good info about working KG's from personal experience as Rufus is only 10 months and we are just getting started.


We are importing 2 KG's X's in November from France - We will be starting to.......................
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting to what?  Would be interested to know the breeding of the two you are importing.
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windem bang



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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Breed: g.s.p. - brit.- labs. - cocker

PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Korthals Griffon Reply with quote

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We are importing 2 KG's X's in November from France - We will be starting to.......................


Why are you importing crossbreeds ?

Bill T.
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Location: East Sussex/Kent border

Breed: KG x's x 2 - Grey x 1 - GSD x 1

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Korthals Griffon Reply with quote

windem bang wrote:
Mr B wrote:



We are importing 2 KG's X's in November from France - We will be starting to.......................


Why are you importing crossbreeds ?

Bill T.


Starting to train them on the basics & then we are interested in working them. We are imorting them because my father in law has the mother (KG x) & it was breed with a pure KG. The mother was a rescuse & we don't know the mix of her. I will post some pictures as soon as I can
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill T you are quiet  right, What you are importing Mr B is not a Griffon dont see the point in the expence of going through the pet passport scheme for a mongrel? There are big problems with crossbreeding Griffons in France at the moment by top breeders, you should not be calling your two dogs Griffons.  That said they are possibly excellent dogs and I wish you good luck with the training,  Does your Father in law work the mother in France, I presume they wont have pedigrees?  Shame they arent pure would of been goog for the breed to have some fresh pure blood in this country.

Just noticed you are correctly calling them KG X's
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are big problems with crossbreeding Griffons in France at the moment by top breeders,


Yes indeed. See my post here:

http://chiendog.blogspot.com/2009/04/trouble-in-griff-land.html
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no strong objections to a bit of carefully thought out xbreeding. I just couldn't see the sense in paying the money to import Xbreeds - unless their progeny can eventually be registered as pure ?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, there are good reasons to cross breed (carefully): hybrid vigor, enhanced performance, health issues. But there are also good reasons to avoid cross breeding (at least publicly): the main one is that you can't register the pups and therefore cannot participate in trials and tests which are very important when it comes to identifying good breeding stock.

Oh, and cross breeding is also seen by some as yet one more sign of the apocalypse. You need to beware of torch carrying mobs if word gets out that your GWP shagged a Setter.



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