Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: Plans for longhaired weimaraner litter
I am planning to take my German import longhaired bitch to Germany in the next 2 weeks to mate with Gerhard Eiben's long haired stud dog Vosbroek's Fjord, both he and my bitch have good working bloodlines .
If anyone is interested in these German bloodlines please PM me and i can supply more info
Good luck with this breeding. I'll be using Frodo as well. We've actually been hunting with Gerd and Frodo and he really surprised us. He has the most fantastic character as well!!!! _________________ www.langhaarweimaraner.nl
Thanks, its a long haul going to germany but its worth it....... Pele's puppies were all good strong puppies and training well but we thought we would have a change of bloodlines, Gerhard said he is very strong and he has done well with his tests so far, My husband saw him last year in germany and said he was a beautiful dog.
Gosh I can hardly believe it's a year since she had her last litter
And if she is pregnant that will be 2 LH litters in the UK at the same time....at least I'll have somewhere to send people when I get the enquiries now! _________________ Claire Minstergate Weimaraners
I have LH and SH Weimaraners and my LH's seem to be more laid back, not sure if anyone else has found that as well?
In Germany, mostly shorthaired (SH) dogs were used for hunting land fowl. Water fowl were hunted primarily with longhaired (LH) dogs. Members of the Delegate Commission, which was the forerunner of the Jagdgebrauchshundeverbandes- - JGHV (a hunting/working dog club), eagerly tried to copy the sleek aristocratic English hunting dogs. They did however dock the tails to create a distinguishing feature.
The LH Weimaraners poorly matched this desired ideal. They did appear from time to time, as is evidenced in the old classified ads, but were not used for breeding. One reason for its rarity might have been the fact that the LH gene is recessive. Shorthair is the dominant trait. LH x LH always produces LH. Sometimes, LH puppies will appear from two SH parents, if both parents have some LH blood. The "mixed” blood is not always obvious in the SH Weimaraner.
I have LH and SH Weimaraners and my LH's seem to be more laid back, not sure if anyone else has found that as well?
In Germany, mostly shorthaired (SH) dogs were used for hunting land fowl. Water fowl were hunted primarily with longhaired (LH) dogs. Members of the Delegate Commission, which was the forerunner of the Jagdgebrauchshundeverbandes- - JGHV (a hunting/working dog club), eagerly tried to copy the sleek aristocratic English hunting dogs. They did however dock the tails to create a distinguishing feature.
The LH Weimaraners poorly matched this desired ideal. They did appear from time to time, as is evidenced in the old classified ads, but were not used for breeding. One reason for its rarity might have been the fact that the LH gene is recessive. Shorthair is the dominant trait. LH x LH always produces LH. Sometimes, LH puppies will appear from two SH parents, if both parents have some LH blood. The "mixed” blood is not always obvious in the SH Weimaraner.
Out of interest are their any differences between long and short apart from their coat ? ?
Although I have no direct experience of owning a LH, I certainly have the impression from LH owners who have owned both that the LH is more laid back. I have no idea if this means all are (I guess there are exceptions )
IIRC at one time (possibly even now?) there where three permitted coat types SH, LH and stockhaar. The following is taken from the WCA site on the LH and sums up the position of the Stockhaar coat:
Quote:
Stockhaarig: The Germans cannot breed a "pure" stockhaar Weimaraner. Stockhaar only appears in breeding dogs with longhair genes. Therefore, there is no recessive gene responsible for stockhaar. There has never been a "real" stockhaar in Weimaraners. Occasionally observations occur which represent a mixture between longhair and shorthair, ie. medium top coat with a light undercoat. Therefore, the registration number is followed by (LK) indicating long/short coat. LH breeders favor occasional breedings to LK to improve quality and resilience of longhair coats. Necessary permissions must be obtained. A "real stockhaar" can be seen in the German Shepard (shorthair variety) or the Dingo. In the "new" FCI Weimaraner standard, there is no mention of a stockhaar-Weimaraner.
I think I am correct in saying that the Germans don't allow LH/SH matings? Although in the UK the clubs decided to keep the two coat varieties in the same breed so LH/SH mating can occur.
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