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| chiendog |
A very good read indeedHi All,I just finished reading yet another excellent article from the Terrierman's blog "The Daily Dose". It inspired me to update my blog http://www.chiendog.blogspot.com/ If you are not familiar with the Terrierman's blog, I encourage you to check it out at http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/. While many of his articles deal with Terrier-specific topics, there are several that are about breeding working dogs in general. In my opinon, they should be required reading for anyone even thinking about getting an hpr and especially by those who chose to breed them. Here is a link to Terrierman's excellent article on the KC and the AKC. http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/05/inbred-thinking.html and here is another http://terriermandotcom.blogspot....etics-of-iditarod-and-crufts.html Enjoy!! |
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| windem bang |
O.K. I'll bite! This is preaching to the converted. I rather suspect most dog owners can see right through the K.C. attitudes. It hasn't been about the dogs for a very long time - if it ever was !!!
I do think it is wrong that the K.C. runs a monopoly on our dogs. People are wanting to make money and if the monopoly is working in your favour and making you money or is in some way increasing your prestige then you will stick with it. No K.C. that really cared about dogs would allow the registration of some of the poor mis-shaped dog breeds that are all too common. We are demanding that dogs have certain health checks before being bred from but turning a blind eye to the plight of several entire breeds of dogs that have deliberate physical faults bred into them as part of their "breed standard" their conformation !!! The K.C. goes along with this because it boosts someones wage packet within that organisation. Any one who has read my past posts knows I am not really a "breed" person. There are many breeds I like and many crossbreeds I would like to try for gundog work. If I were to find a crossbreed that was disgustingly healthy on all counts and which was was capable of beating all opposition when worked and which could breed its like - would the K.C. welcome it with open arms ??? No it would not. It would stick with the same breeds calling them purebreds and turning a blind eye to the absolute fact that they were ALL crossbreds at one time! Bill T. |
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
Most within the last 100 years 
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| JR VIZ |
Well said!! but also the breeder has to take some responcability for what they are doing. Alot of the big name breeders don't get on with other breeders. Hense this only closes down the gene pool, they don't like giving any one a sniff of what they have, they say they are protecting THEIR breed lines (who did they get them from ?) If only they could get thier noise out of the clouds and tried to get along the gene pools would be alot bigger and alot healthier. |
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| Finncally |
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,
Just wasted the morning reading through most of this site 
As someone who dislikes the sophistry, bad syllogism and fadism of modern dog people, Iv'e found an opinionated, reactional, gainsayer, so familiar I'm going to ask my mother if she gave any of her children up for adoption. Marvelous, thanks for pointing me to that site Chiendog 
(and its about Terriers as well.........) |
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| BritAnnie |
Duh??? |
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| windem bang |
 Double Duh  Must get a dickshaunery one of these days! 
Bill T. |
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| BritAnnie |
My we have clever people on here 
Sophistry in MS Word means literalism, which in turn means pedantry, laboriousness and/or lack of imagination. Syllogism - a form of argument used in logic in which a conclusion is drawn from two propositions, or premises. I regret 'fadism' was not found in the Encarta dictionary, was it meant to be faddism? - the existence of or participation in briefly popular fashions Any wiser Bill? 
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| newbie |
don't know about Bill but its as clear as mud to me lol
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| langhaar |
Do they always write like this in Morayshire, if so could someone translate because I'm bu..ered if I know what fincally is talking about. Must be a head down too many holes. | ||||
| Rhimad |
Welll I agree with Bill...........As for the rest, I have no idea, way over my head | ||||
| windem bang |
Morayshire is a "funny" place, I'm told they learn to speak like that during the long dark winters with nowt else to do. Why can't they just drink whisky and chase sheep like all the other cheuchters ?
Bill T. |
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| langhaar |
Perhaps he's just finished reading " The John Paul Sartre Guide for Dog Breeders, I think ( terrier ) therefore I am" | ||||
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| guy |
And there is me thinking all along it was Descartes
Knowing a sophist or two - does that make me a 'sophisticate'?? |
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| langhaar |
I think you're right!
should have been , like all terrier dreamers they confuse disenchantment with truth ! Next time my Patterdale terrier breeder beatkeeper tells me sophistry thro the brambles I'll tell him to place his faded syllogism where it hurts! |
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| Finncally |
ooer !!!!!
Now you see why I don't post very often, I'm a very sensitive type 
I shall try harder next time. Oh and for your further edification, I was born and bred in the NE of England, so you know what that makes me. |
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| Finncally |
Strangely enough it is my humanistic and socialistic interpretation of existentialism that first brought me to Sartre. so the qoute is apposite indeed. 
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| Helen |
Nope, no clearer lol!
We've just moved from the NE and I struggled to understand some people there. Particularly a keeper who had a real local dialect and I just couldn't understand him. I spent most of the day saying pardon! He tried to give me a radio once but I refused cos I couldn't understand him in the flesh, let alone on a radio! Helen |
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| windem bang |
So there you are then whether you're from N.E. England or N.E. Scotland verbal diarhore- dyorea - scoots still runs in the jeans.
Bill T. |
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| Finncally |
Bill, I've read your posts, and I shall defer to your expertise on verbal diarhore- dyorea - scoots and bow my head in supplication, in recognition of a master of the idiom.
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| windem bang |
Thanks! I knew accusing others of verbiosity was asking for trouble !
Bill T. |
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| guy |
We all know 'bullshit baffles brains'  But .... i love a bit of loquacious verbal conjuring
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| windem bang |
" loquacious verbal conjuring"???? Is that the same as calling a Brittany an Epagneul Breton ?
Bill T. |
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| Finncally |
Guy , Bill,
Thanks for that, had a bad day, you'se have cheered me up. thanks for the verbal bandiage. (Espagneul Breton, very nearly wet meself)
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| guy |
[quote Is that the same as calling a Brittany an Epagneul Breton
[/quote] 'fraid not - |
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| BritAnnie |
A Scot wi nae brains |
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| guy |
where's johnhod when you need him??? | ||||
| BritAnnie |
Probably working He's SUCH a swot
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| Helen S |
On accents - perhaps one of you Scots can translate this joke someone sent me this morning
Twa al wifies wak past a close an the smell is afa, een tirns tae the ither, "fit a smell it, mist be urine", "na" says the ither, in a huff, " it's nae mine een, it mist be ure een". Helen S |
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| Hapsberg |
Oooooooooh! Never knew I would be needing a dictionary handy when I joined this forum. I always considered myself quite articulate but I have been blown out of the water this morning.
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| josie |
Well, I'm not Scottish, but here's my attempt:
Two old wives/women walk past a close (?) and the smell is awful. One turns to the other, "If I smell it, it must be urine", "No", says the other, in a huff, "It's not my own, it must be your own". I'm not sure if they're walking past a close or if they're walking close to something. |
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| sako75 |
"Two old women walk past an alleyway and the smell is awfull , one turns to the other and says "what a smell , it must be URINE" (URINE meaning "your one" in Aberdonian). NO says the woman , feeling rather disgruntled -it must be your ONE.............. - THEY WERE BOTH WEARING SKIRTS
Barry. |
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| josie |
Wait, where is the skirts line!?
I didn't know close=alleyway, that makes sense. |
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| sako75 |
I made that up................I won't go into detail !!
Barry. |
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