windem bang
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A year on - any change ?It has now been just over a year since I joined this forum. I have a vague memory of writing that I like the game itself to be a dogs command to be steady to flush. With both rabbits and birds I am now getting to that stage with my "pup" - now 15 months old.
Have any others among you made the situation itself the command to be steady ? Are you still whistle and or vocal commanding your dogs when game is flushed ? I know this can be needed at times but are many of you still doing that ALL the time?
Bill T.
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BritAnnie
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| Quote: | | game itself to be a dogs command to be steady to flush |
How do you do this?
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If you had asked me that on Saturday i would have said I always reinforced with whistle - an automatic response on my part i suppose. But on Sunday we were out in rape - i was taking the opportunity of working him down wind, just leaving him to it to see what happened - he disturbed a bird and SAT of his own volition
The puppy is sitting to a report - even a bird scarer makes him sit at the moment - i expect her to loose this a bit when she starts to 'hot' up with teenage years coming on.
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Al sits to gunshot but chases to flush. I wondered how Bill got them to stop naturally to flush. Is it just volume and they get to learn they can't catch?
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he tells a story about bait digging and seagulls somewhere.
I teach sit to 'flush' the same way as other 'sits'
sit to voice and then add hand signal, when that is sound add whistle. Then when a bird is flushed use the whistle to get the sit. After a while the flush acts as the trigger and you can stop using the whistle.
i have seen Topaz sit when he sees me put the whistle towards my mouth - taking the hand movement as a visual clue.
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Helen
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I'm still doing it with Teal, just as a reinforcement. Probably, me lacking in confindence in her.
My springer, USUALLY sits to flush but she's a springer and she changes every day lol.
Has it only been a year Bill :0 lol
Helen
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guy
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Don't forget for those in their first flush of youth (Bill) time has no meaning
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windem bang
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Hi Helen , yes it has "only" been a year  Something about the way your post was written made me think perhaps it had been longer. No wonder you could think that ! I have just had a look at how many posts I have made in that year - the number is horrendous ! I am going to get a life and do a lot less writing and a lot more fishing to pass the time.
I asked the question posed by this post due to having read in this forum and on another one of problems arising from the flush situation. Aside from my opinion that a sit to flush with no command from a handler looks and sounds much tidier and more professional , it also has less obvious but very valuable uses.
Bill T.
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Bareve
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| windem bang wrote: |
I asked the question posed by this post due to having read in this forum and on another one of problems arising from the flush situation. Aside from my opinion that a sit to flush with no command from a handler looks and sounds much tidier and more professional , it also has less obvious but very valuable uses.
Bill T. |
"Dropping to wing" is a credit point in the field trial world  Freddy has always done it from when we got him (naturally and without training) and my other dog does do it but I think that was a conditioned response from my commands on something being flushed. I do think practical experience in the shooting field teaches them to stop momentarily whilst they "watch" the game away.
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It certainly did with Pippa. I found it a way to stop her running in (after having a horrendous season with her). She soon learnt to sit to flush without a command and then look back at me. It was just one way to control a wild spaniel.
How many posts Bill  lol. We would miss you if you were fishing all the time lol
Helen
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windem bang
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Including this one that is 2359 !!! I could have written a book with less!!! 
Fishing here I come !
Bill T.
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sako75
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| Quote: | | Including this one that is 2359 !!! I could have written a book with less!!! |
I know the feeling Bill , this forum gets very addictive. I was supposed to be calming down a wee bit with the posting due to other commitments and look at me , I just can't keep away !!!!
A compliment to the friendly nature of the members on here. 
Barry.
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windem bang
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Awww! That's a nice thing to say ! Thanks Barry !!!
Bill T.
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Helen S
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Here, here. I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this forum a place I like to be, you guys are people I like to share my experiences with.
Helen S
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