Coat Stripping nightmare.

BenB · Coat Stripping nightmare.

Had Teasel "hand stripped" a few months ago. We asked if she would definitely be handstripped and not clipped and we told that was the case.

When we picked her up it was immediately obvious that she had been clippered and her coat effectively ruined.

This morning my other half took her to our usual and trusted pooch pamperer. prognosis that her coat may never recover and that she has no undercoat and that it may never grow back. She said we should sue the other dog wash place.

Long winded story to say "will it?"

Helen

Oh no! I don't know but would definitely do something about the other place, particularly as they said they would strip!

Helen

weima

I would have thought it would come back but I suspect it will take a while. Why say the dog has been stripped when it hasn't Question

I would be wanting answers.

cressy

Not the same but my WSS was clippered when I asked for him to be hand-stripped. It has taken nearly 4 years to get his coat back but now there is little residual damage done.

Mike

Sorry to hear of your problem Ben but can I ask why clipping damages the undercoat? Ans Sue why did it take so long for Freddies coat to grow back? I know naff all about dog hair / coats so don't get too technical!! (what's an undercoat BTW?)

cressy

I know about the same as you Mike Wink

. Mind you I am amazed as to how much I can spend on scissors etc for Fred's coat so I guess I really should learn more.

Apparently it is to do with the fact that clipper blades will be fairly viscious on the hair follicles so it can take a while for them to settle back down into their natural form and allow the hair to lie naturally. Before anyone disputes what I have said I am only repeating what I was told Laughing

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BenB

Instead of a structured layered weatherproof coat you end up with a coat that grows back wooly and wiry with no shorter length hairs. So she looks more like a bog brush than a close fitting wire coat. If that makes any sense. Not sure why it happens - should imagine that the shorter hairs grow incredibly slowly like a down?

ho hum - not sure what recourse there can really be apart from advising everyone not to use that stupid lazy idiot.

DesO'Neile

I had Inga the Dog Mountain clipped when I first got her. Right down to the wood. I didn't really understand the difference at that time and when I went to pick the bitch up I was sold one of those stripping blades. The lady told me that as long as I used the blade regularly it would stop the top coat frizzing. She was clipped in April and her coat was back by October. After that I just hand stripped her body and trimmed her head and feathers from time to time. It would take a couple of days to do her body. The bit done first did tend to look like it had been clipped.

Question asked in total ignorance.
Surely you would expect the feathering to be clipped? I reckon it would be a pretty painful job to hand strip feathers.

BenB

Yes i expected that Des.

Still if anyone needs to know of a top rate groomer in Gloucestershire - drop me a line as she is first rate.

BritAnnie

BenB

Hi Annie

i dunno - Kt picked her up - i'll ask but I doubt she paid.

countrygirl

Hi Ben

you could do with Sharon to answer this one as she is the most experianced. I had mine stripped once by a parlor then taught myself, I have just invested in a rake at £18 for Rumours coat which is very poor.(her coat not the rake lol) Dont worry about the lack of under coat at this time of year as thats normal, some one else mentioned feather they could be trimmed by scisors but I think most people stripp them by hand aswell, with practice its not hard to learn to strip yourself , but takes a while if you have a hairy one propley best to do it in stages.

Hopefully her coat will grow back in time but it may take a couple of years with hand stripping to bring it on in the meantime(that is the secret apparently, to keep stripping it out to get it to re grow)

Good Luck

Caz

BritAnnie

I have been very lucky - Hester(Benreeda Hester) has an almost perfect coat Wink

- one and a half inches topcoat, good quality undercoat, coarse back hairs - I have NEVER stripped her, ever. Only problem is she lacks face furnishings, her beard and eyebrows are there but not very profuse - but you can't usually have both. Rolling Eyes

Annie

countrygirl

you can borrow some of Mavericks facial hair if you like his is very bushy lol

if I could ever work out how to post pictures id show you

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BritAnnie

If you have pictures on your computer it is easy peasy Wink

click on 'post reply', a new box opens up, click on 'attach file', click on 'browse', find the photo on your PC click box for post as thumbnail, click on 'upload file'. Bingo Rolling Eyes

Annie

Click to see full size image

Helen S

Hester looks like Liesel (or vice versa!).

I too only need to strip her back hair, tail, and ears where the long hair gets sunbleached. Oh and I do her knees! They grow longer wiry hair on the front and it makes her look back at the knee unless I pull it out.

Helen S

Bareve

Oh dear !

Clippering isn't the best thing for a wire coat but what happens next will totally depend on how good the coat was before. Being realistic - was the coat correct before with just some dead coat that needed pulling or did she have an open, longer body coat than ideal?

If she had the sort of coat that Anne talks about then it will not make that much difference. However if her coat was longer and open then it will now be quite difficult to get it back to what it was.

To do it properly you will need to, next time, go back to hand stripping - which will be very difficult and will make her bald. I would imagine the groomer you went too may have realised this and took the clippering route instead of ringing you and saying what he/she thought. Try and find what we call a stripping block or a pumice stone and use that like a brush and this will trap the dead hair and pull it out.

If you don't want to do this then you have to keep the coat short by whichever method you want - either coat king or by scissoring with thinning scissors. But this will make the coat lose it's texture. Coat kings are good but they can still cut the coat if used wrong.

Bit difficult to explain but if you want to send a picture of her close up to her hair and one of her before I will be able to give you a better idea as to what will happen and what to do going forward.

HTH

BenB

Thanks for all of the responses- our good groomer has tidied her up and sort her out over time - I shall have to take some photos.

josie

Out of interest (now I have a wire coated breed!) what is a coat king??

countrygirl

I think it what I have just brough, it is a sort of rake you run it through the coat and it takes it out, ive used it on 3 different wirehairs, my old dog with a very thick coat it has thined out but he still has very hairy legs I am wondering if I need a different grade one for legs as they come in serval tooth grades. He did sem to much perfer it to a stripping knife which he soon get fed up with.Piper Rumours sister has a good coat but was scruffy a quick run through and she looked perfect. Rumours coat is a sharon discribes longer perhaps than ideal and open I am waiting to see what effect it has on in the long run but it cant make it worse lol

guy

http://www.hubintsecured.co.uk/acatalog/Coat_Kings.html

Ghilliegumdrop

Flipping heck, you are a little mine of information. Laughing

Jan
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guy

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countrygirl

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Ghilliegumdrop

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Jan
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guy

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Ghilliegumdrop

Sorry, hard up myself now I've brought my pup Very Happy

Jan

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