kiwi
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dogs and kidswhat are some veiws on the influence with kids and pups when trying to train the young pup.............does it prolong the training and what sort of things should be avoided with how the kids play with the pup.
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guy
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well behaved children and well behaved dogs live in the same family.
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Lisa
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I totally agree Guy. My kids have to learn to respect the pup and vise versa. As long as both can do this they all get along fine!
With training I prefer the kids not to use the words or carry out any of the basic training exercises until the pup is fluent on them. Too much of them interferring is where the trouble can start! Serious training is always kept separate from the kids to avoid confusion.
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BritAnnie
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The only think I let my kids do was if they were playing in eh garden or a park and the pup ran off was to call him/her and run the other way. It is a great temptation for kids to chase puppies and just the wrong way to get them to come back. I don't allow my kids to do any training at all until the dogs are adult and know what they are doing.
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Helen
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I've taught Sam how to strip Tarn - very useful lololol
Seriously, if the child is mature enough, it might work but I don't even let Rob train my dogs so it probably won't happen here!
Helen
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Lisa
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 Helen! I'm the same with my husband!! He is not even allowed to walk mine!
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Helen
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lol, he's allowed to walk them but I do all the training. Actually, I train his dogs as well! The basics anyway.
I seemed to have veered away from the original question from Kiwi. I imagine if kids are playing tug with the dog, it could cause problems and if the kids are constantly giving them commands, and the wrong ones, it could cause confusion. I do find though, that if I do have a child constantly calling the dogs name, they just ignore them. Rob's old springer will respond to my 3 year old nephew.
Helen
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tashap
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no idea... but will soon find out 
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windem bang
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My then 9 years old son took my lab bitch out hunting water hens and rabbits the day before she was due to compete in the Retriever Championships - by hunting I mean that Tess had to catch them ! She caught one waterhen after a hectic hunt up the side of a big watery ditch and hedge as my son proudly informed me. 
I could do nothing but laugh .........and no she didn't win in the Championships !
At present I do not allow my 3 years old grandson to throw retrieves for my dogs and I have him come and tell me or his granny if one of them picks up one of his toys. This last is probably not a good idea, he would probably make a better job of calmly getting his toy back than my wife does ...........I still remember very clearly what she did to Bucks retrieving !
Bill T.
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Liz
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If Ozzy picks up one of his toys, my 6 year old grandson will very calmly and gently take it out of his mouth - no fuss, no bother. The funny thing is a lot of the rest of time he acts a bit scared of the dogs.
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Helen
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It's usually Sam picking up the dogs toys! lol Particularly now he's on the move!
Helen
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tashap
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haha!
I have to say some people are SOOO anti dogs and children. Three times this week I have had people comment about the fact that my pupsters are still young and bouncy and will they be safe around my soon to be new addition???  Needless to say that none of them own a dog or any pet for that matter.
They can't say anything about Bonnie and Ayla as both have been more than proven with children of all ages including new borns at the university and are very gentle but I do find it annoying that despite all the training we have been putting into the pups to get them ready (including the horrors that are my twin nieces and nephews who have been round regularly to scream, laugh, snore and leave their stinky smells behind for practise, I'm sure toddlers nappies are the most evil thing  ) that people think that a large breed dog is going to eat, maim or do some other horror to my new baby...  being hunting dogs seems is even more of a reason to worry
Am definitely having a bah humbug day with these peoples total lack of understanding when it comes to dogs.
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Helen
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you are going to have a lot more of it with people thinking they know best! It can get very tiring.
People thought we were bonkers taking on a terrier pup when Sam was a couple of months old. It really couldn't have been better. They are great together and it will be nice for him to have Tarn as his dog when he's older.
When are you due again?
Helen
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tashap
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thursday morning this week I can't wait I have six weeks recouperation after the csection and then back to my dogs and their training!!! YIPPEE!!
You wouldn't believe how much I have missed even the basics like taking them out. Hardest thing I have ever done is to have to watch my OH take them on their walks knowing that he won't be doing the things that I do to encourage them for working...
I know babies are meant to be the be all and end all and that your supposed to give up life and hobbies etc but I don't see why you can't have both and I fully intend to
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Lisa
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You shouldn't have to give up anything!
There's no reason why you can't still enjoy your hobbies too! You are entitled to 'me' time too! It works with family! I know they are much older but it's the same principle! It's all about compromise!  
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Helen
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I found it hard towards the end of my pregnancy as I couldn't do what I always did although I was out grouse counting at 6 months lol.
Having Sam hasn't really made us give up everything. It does change things and I did find it hard watching Rob go out shooting every Saturday and I couldn't go with him but only because I couldn't get a babysitter every week. We were out grouse counting the other week and Rob carried Sam. Sam has been coming out with us walking the dogs from about a month old, when he could fit into his sling.
Best advice a friend gave to me....get a good all terrain pushchair and a rucksack but you can use a sling for the first 6 months.
Good luck for Thursday....let us know how you it all goes!
Helen
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