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| Mike |
HPR PedigreesSylvia has excelled herself! I didn't realise she had breeds other than Weims
http://www.gundogpedigrees.com/ Totals an breeds to date: Weimaraners over 97.000 Large Munsterlander almost 13.000 Pudelpointer over 5.500 Vizsla over 9.600 German Longhair over 15.000 English Setter over 9.600 Gordon Setter almost 5.000 |
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| countrygirl |
no gwp's though 
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| Mike |
I am pretty sure there will be and I am also sure that Sylvia would be greatful for a hand! | ||||
| Ghilliegumdrop |
Nor Brittanys 
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| Mike |
Jan, do you know if there is currently any online pedigrees for Brits? | ||||
| Helen |
There is an online one for gwp's as I've seen it. Can't remember where though!
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| Bareve |
It's world pedigree's that was created by Mike Herwin - it has a lot of mistakes and lots of missing dogs/information. A few breeders originally purchased the KC database and some of them have kept it upto date unlike mine which needs quite a bit of work on 
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| BritAnnie |
The French Club has a Breed book online - CEB, and we have a database for the UK registered Brittanys. There used to be one in the States for their French bred Brittanys (not the American ones) - Carolina Brittanys but I don't know if they are still on the go. I have the UK breed database on my PC, but it includes owners details so we wouldn't be at liberty to provide that unless these were removed (because of the Data Protection Act.)
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
I thought that Goldie had a website with Brittany pedigrees on it but where it is Lord alone knows. | ||||
| BritAnnie |
not up-to-date | ||||
| sashalgwps |
My GWP pedigree records are 99% complete.
If anyone needs GWP info just give me a shout Alex |
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| Bareve |
Well you can get yourself down here and bring my database upto date then
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| Rhimad |
Thats you told Alex next time keep quiet
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| Bareve |
Yes but I think she will ignore me anyway
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| Rhimad |
No.I dont believe Alex would do that 
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| sashalgwps |
Errrr did someone say something??? <LOL> 
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| Rhimad |
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| Bareve |
See I told you she would Tracy
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| tashap |
sylvia and menno really are doing a magnificent job I'm hoping they will add cocker spaniels to their list of breeds because there is seriously lacking info available in comparison to the number of dogs bred in the UK alone. | ||||
| Sylvia |
Came across this treat 
Yes we opened that site after I collected so many info from all gundog breeds, and wanted to shar that info too. I only cannot take care of all the breeds myself. As you can see as well most the databases are done by other people. So if people like to see other breeds.... please contact me, I am still looking for data editors.. What you get back? A large amount of info/history of your breed.
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| tashap |
and it really is great breed history i can certainly vouch for that. My data entry has come to a halt till after my move and the wrigglers but after that I shall be back at the pc again. | ||||
| Sylvia |
And next year you will have the Cockers finished?
Indeed is breed history great. That is why I try to share it via the Gundogpedigrees website.... Only to think that I do it all LOLL I have my hands full with the weims
For the people interested how the site has been created.. After being in contact already for a while (before the site got launced) with Christine (who is doing the Large Munsterlanders) I told her she had to share the database/info she has/had. I swapped a lot of data with her. And knew she had a large amount of history that way. It would be a pity to keep it only in her own offline database. And that is how the site started.... With as first the Large Munsterlander... With of course next the Weimaraner. |
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| Sylvia |
That is indeed what I heard/seen from the other databases from Mike as well. There are many mistakes in and not so much info. And because allmost all Gundog breeds already are maintained by Mike on WorldPedigrees.. It was no option to place there. So the Gundogpedigrees Webesite gives the oppertunity to place database who contain more (and correct) info
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| Sylvia |
Depending on which software you use... But with Breedmate for example you can easily say which fields you want to export for in an online version. Though... if you have the breed Records you have the same owner/breeder info. As long as it is published for the public (which are the BRS). I do not see a problem in putting in a database. |
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| tashap |
I'd be lucky!! and only if I employed half the campus as data entry clerks
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| Sylvia |
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| Sylvia |
Probably we can place the Cockers as well... I have thought of the Spaniels as well. In the UK they are a gundog breed so
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| tashap |
Yes we've got a lot of breeds in the gundog section, the easiest ones to start off with will probably be the smaller numbers like the field spaniels and sussex varieties the English Springers & Cocker Spaniels will be much more time consuming because of their numbers really is extraordinary how many of these dogs have been bred.
It'll be very interesting to see how many of the dogs further back in history have a mixed heritage as the breeds used to be split by a weight and height category rather than breed specific. |
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| Sylvia |
The oldest I have for you in BRS are 1883, 1884 and 1886. Though have to picture them, scanning is not possible. I miss only one month in one of the years. |
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| tashap |
blimey how did you get hold of those???
The KC records we can do like we did with the weims but it'll take alot of time and they might not take too kindly to me asking them to do the whole lot in one go.  
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| Sylvia |
Ebay
If I have it right (now talking out of my head) it are not many spaniels in that early years. What I did see is that there were no specific breeds indeed. |
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| tashap |
there were an awful lot of spaniels but not that many that were registered, the register stayed open for many years so you'll see dogs that won't have any history to them and just a pet name.
They were all pretty much lumped in together to a point I've seen some registrations where there are three different breeds in the same litter. Its alot clearer now although with cockers there is the problem of the split between the breed of show and working dogs the difference in type really is enough to warrant a separation of the breed. When I went to DD a couple of years ago I made a bee line for the Cocker Stand on my break from the weim stand and there was a lovely lady asking about the working cockers only to be told they are NOT cocker spaniels which is rot but this lady was adament she wanted a breeder who bred the 'other' type. I had Ayla in tow still a very young puppy and when she turned and saw her she very loudly went 'I want one of those!!!'. When the guy on the stand still said that the working cocker was not a cocker I thought it a little sad that they don't acknowledge their own heritage  It may just have been this one persons opinion but he was a committee member of the Breed Club and was in a position to influence people, just seemed very wrong to me.
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