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windem bang

Korthals Griffon

Can anyone tell me anything about the "Korthals Griffon"??   I think a friend is getting one and I may be helping with training.

I have heard of it but have only seen one photo. It showed a heavily built dog.

Bill T.
Claire

I know the friend you are talking about because she mentioned she was on the waiting list for one.  I first learned of them in the Di Arrowsmith seminar I attended and I must admit I was interested in them.

See linky below for more info.


http://www.korthalsgriffonclub.co.uk/
newbie

I know who you are talking about too  Laughing  she never stops taling about it  Laughing  i also spotted this breed years ago before i got my pointers but then i dont think any one had them in this country or if they did they were keeping it a secret , we actually got to see 2 in the flesh at National gundog very nice they were to quite like a GWP a bit smaller i thought, but lovely all the same.
Kerry  Smile
windem bang

Thanks, I understood this was on the secrets list but it seems that everybody and his Aunty knows !!! Laughing

Don't know if I would have the energy left to train it anyway , I am now trying to train Buck and two cocker spaniels - I'm knackered !!!! Laughing

Bill T.
windem bang

I've just finished digging up some info on this breed and looking at a few photos. I must admit I am attracted to it myself - I'll have to add it to my wishlist! Rolling Eyes

Bill T.
Claire

Secrets??  Are you mad??  Laughing  Laughing
windem bang

I can only say that I was sworn to secrecy - I kept my mouth shut......... can't imagine how word leaked out  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Laughing  Laughing
Been doing some more research into the breed . It really does interest me. Pity life's so short, there are still lots of dog breeds that I would love to have and love to try working with.

Bill T.
chiendog

I've seen Korthals Griffons in the US, Canada, Germany, Holland and in France where there are quite a few of them (France is the de facto parent country of the breed even though it was developed by a dutchman in germany...)

Many of the Korthals I have seen have been pretty good, a few were not-so-good. The best ones, in my opinion, are found in France and Quebec. There are two clubs for the breed in the US, and a new club in the UK for them as well. The american club split into two due to one faction wanting to cross breed to Cesky Fouseks (a very closely related breed from Czech). There are good ones to be found in the US, but you have to be careful, there are some truly awful ones being bred as well.

For someone in the UK considering a Korthals, I would suggest they contact the French club and/or breeders such as Bernard Faussurier, kennel name "Des Grandes Origines"  http://www.griffon-korthals.net/ his is among the top kennels in the country.

Oh, and one other thing. You may come across people claiming that the breed is a slow, close working breed for "old men". I don't know where this sort of thing started, but the good Korthals I have seen, were anything but slow and close working. A good Korthals is a dynamic worker, very feline in its movements and a great hunting partner for all kinds of game (note I said "good" one. There are some out there that couldn't find meat in a butcher shop....buyer beware).
windem bang

Thanks Chiendog, I will keep all of that in mind.

Bill T.
Bareve

chiendog wrote:
Oh, and one other thing. You may come across people claiming that the breed is a slow, close working breed for "old men". I don't know where this sort of thing started, but the good Korthals I have seen, were anything but slow and close working. A good Korthals is a dynamic worker, very feline in its movements and a great hunting partner for all kinds of game (note I said "good" one. There are some out there that couldn't find meat in a butcher shop....buyer beware).


I agree with this - those that I have seen at F/T's and other working events they are most certainly not slow or close working.  They made a good job of the ground given to them and were a pleasure to watch Very Happy  Very Happy
lou

I saw one at the weekend that was anything but slow! he was a lovely looking dog too. The owner told me that they were softer than GWP's in that they are more birdy rather than hard enough to hold a deer/wild pig but i may have misunderstood that.
If I hadnt asked I would have assumed his dog was a GWP Embarassed
Connie fancied him anyway Very Happy
windem bang

Hi Lou, that is pretty much what I have read about them . To be honest that kind of attitude to deer etc. would suit me fine.

Bill T.
countrygirl

I meet someone at the working test who is passing his on as it is too inconsistant, brillient one day useless the next shame really.

Caz
Helen

I don't have a problem with my wires not being birdy enough.

Helen

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