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| Warwick |
Korthals GriffonI thought I'd better move out of the 'hello' section, but no specific KG breed section, what's wrong with you all? I thought everyone had one!Anyway John has helped me post some pics so here are a few. I'm afraid I can't really give any good info about working KG's from personal experience as Rufus is only 10 months and we are just getting started. 
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| Warwick |
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| Mr B |
Re: Korthals Griffon[quote="Warwick"]No specific KG breed section, what's wrong with you all? I thought everyone had one!I'm afraid I can't really give any good info about working KG's from personal experience as Rufus is only 10 months and we are just getting started. We are importing 2 KG's X's in November from France - We will be starting to....................... |
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| griffon |
Starting to what? Would be interested to know the breeding of the two you are importing. | ||||
| windem bang |
Re: Korthals Griffon
Why are you importing crossbreeds ? Bill T. |
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| Mr B |
Re: Korthals Griffon
Starting to train them on the basics & then we are interested in working them. We are imorting them because my father in law has the mother (KG x) & it was breed with a pure KG. The mother was a rescuse & we don't know the mix of her. I will post some pictures as soon as I can |
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| griffon |
Bill T you are quiet right, What you are importing Mr B is not a Griffon dont see the point in the expence of going through the pet passport scheme for a mongrel? There are big problems with crossbreeding Griffons in France at the moment by top breeders, you should not be calling your two dogs Griffons. That said they are possibly excellent dogs and I wish you good luck with the training, Does your Father in law work the mother in France, I presume they wont have pedigrees? Shame they arent pure would of been goog for the breed to have some fresh pure blood in this country.
Just noticed you are correctly calling them KG X's |
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| chiendog |
Yes indeed. See my post here: http://chiendog.blogspot.com/2009/04/trouble-in-griff-land.html |
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| windem bang |
I have no strong objections to a bit of carefully thought out xbreeding. I just couldn't see the sense in paying the money to import Xbreeds - unless their progeny can eventually be registered as pure ?
Bill T. |
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| chiendog |
I agree, there are good reasons to cross breed (carefully): hybrid vigor, enhanced performance, health issues. But there are also good reasons to avoid cross breeding (at least publicly): the main one is that you can't register the pups and therefore cannot participate in trials and tests which are very important when it comes to identifying good breeding stock.
Oh, and cross breeding is also seen by some as yet one more sign of the apocalypse. You need to beware of torch carrying mobs if word gets out that your GWP shagged a Setter. |
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| Dave A |
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| Mr B |
These dogs are a gift from my inlaw's to myself & their daughter, we aren't bringing them over here for breeding purposes at all. In that respect I agree with you.
We were simply after some friendly advise on how best to train them to get the best out of them for themselves and for us. |
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| chiendog |
Train them the same way you would a 'pure' bred dog. Lots of advice here and other forums about that. A good dog is a good dog no matter what its paper trail. | ||||
| BenB |
Bill have you set up immigration control for working dogs? Let's start the argument on the definition of pure breeds again or maybe just make the chap welcome!!!
Bloody hell at least he hasn't got a bloody weim! |
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| Dave A |
Agreed
Hello and welcome , hopefully you will find all the assistance you need to train your new dogs and maybe make a few new friends along the way,
Dave A |
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| Mr B |
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Theboys.jpg | ||||
| Dave A |
They look like the TV show " the hairy barkers " !!!!!
Dave A |
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| windem bang |
That creased me !
Bill T. |
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| Mike |
And yet we accept the SRHP with open arms?? 
Welcome to the forum and I am sure you will find plenty of advice on training your dogs, have fun 
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| Lisa |
Oi you! Don't start on the weims! 
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| BenB |
Lisa the fridge magnets never lie!
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| Lisa |
Too true Ben!! Thats goes for the pointing reindeer too then!!
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| Warwick |
Hi Alain,
After all that dust has settled..... The only advice I would offer from my modest KG experience is start retrieve training early, Rufus's retrieving is a bit fragile, he's still young and they do take time to mature but their hunting instinct is so strong they find it hard to concentrate on anything else if there is anything remotely interesting within half a mile. So equally you need to spend a lot of time on control, recalls, stop whistles etc. All that said he is a great dog with potential and I'm enjoying the journey! Whereabouts are you? If you're Oxfordshire way we could meet up for a bit of training. Good luck with it all. PS Saw a GWP / Wiem X the other day, nice looking dog......(Light the blue touch paper and take several paces back)
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| griffon |
Sorry to be controversial again but here goes...
I dont agree with the start training early idea Ive had griffons for 10 years and retreiving has never been a problem we pick up and wildfowl 2/3/days a week, its all to do with buying from good lines, they are slow to mature and most importantly be gentle with them. |
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| Mr B |
[quote="Warwick"]Hi Alain,
Whereabouts are you? If you're Oxfordshire way we could meet up for a bit of training. Good luck with it all. Thank you Warwick - see below for a few pictures of the boys. We are in East Sussex. In time you never know how far a field we might travel with them so Oxfordshire isn't out of the question !!! http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Theboys.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Angoragoat.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Darty.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Dumas.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/charliechippan/Silverback.jpg |
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| Warwick |
They look great Alain, how old are they? | ||||
| Mr B |
They are 8 1/2 months old or were when these photos was taken 3 weeks ago. | ||||