langhaar
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Last day of the season/ new trial grounds
This shooting syndicate has put two new trial grounds on the agenda, Coleshill which was run as an A/A but will be Open next year and another A/A for next year in Hampshire plus hosting the GWP Myerscroft Novice.
Trial grounds don't come easy and sponsoring is usually a minimum cost of £500 on the day so I am extermely appreciative of HPR enthusiasts who are willing to put something back into our sport, these unsung heroes are rarely mentioned in dispatches.
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Claire
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That is great. They definitely deserve a mention !! 
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lagopuslagopus
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That's brilliant Brenda - I know the two Munsterlander trials cost the Club a fortune.
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baylo
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Excellent Brenda..I must also say two very handsome dogs and a nice bag. Looks like that was a good day.
Wendy
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BritAnnie
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How do other clubs fund their field trials? We have a fair number of show membership and I need to convince them to put their money where their mouth is regarding paying lip service to the working side of our breed. Our FT sec has sponsored us this year but we can't let that go on forever.  I personally feel there should be a budget and targeted fund-raising for trials etc.
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Claire
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On another forum I'm on (weimaraner one) an FT Sec came on and explained just how difficult it is to break even when running trials let alone make a profit. I personally hadn't realised just how tough it is and its made me appreciate even more, the clubs that do put on trials.
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BenB
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Can you explain this to an idiot please - what costs £500? I know you need the judges and the ground and to let people know that it is on but surely it can't cost that much?? What i am not thinking of?
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johnhod
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It may make arguing for funding easier if we had a break down of costs involved
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lagopuslagopus
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One of our grounds cost over £500 and the other just under. You've got food for judges/guns/stewards, trophies/certificates, all other printing, KC costs, judges expenses (if they claim any). Sometimes you can get some money back from the guns, sometimes you don't and you've obviously got the entry fees coming in.
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Bareve
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To add to Karen's email - just remember that clubs have to "buy" shooting days normally a 15 - 20 bird day at an average cost of £30 per bird (£450-£600) - very few clubs have grounds "donated" to them and the likes of Chris's generosity are few and far between.
Where possible, to help offset costs, the shooting rights are normally "sold" on the day so that some revenue is raised to help and those guns who shoot on the day are normally quite happy to pay something for their day/sport.
Very few clubs actually make money on the F/T side and if they can break even it's normally a great result. Running working tests are normally a good source of income for the working side to help offset costs.
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munstyman
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Just adding to Karen and Sharons posts, we have to be very mindful that whilst many people in the trial world decline renumeration for their time and services, this can often be misleading on the `Clubs' accounts.
Some very succesful trials can make financial losses, depending on the generosity or practicality of the circumstances of the Trial. We are all aware that there are some who read the balance sheet and see what they want to see! We have to educate them that there are more things related to the job of being a successful Field Trial Secretary than the financial bottom line. Further we must, as compeditors in working events, always be conciderate of all that give us the opportunity to work our dogs at these events.
Peter
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langhaar
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It's about finding the right grounds too, one which will bring out the best in our breeds and you need experienced guns who know how to shoot a bird going away.Good ones will distance the bird before shooting it on HPR trials.
There are not many grounds who will offer a trial free gratis, unlike Mark who donates his trials at Caversfield as a way of putting something back into the sport and he makes sure the guns are good as all of them are either HPR owners, triallers or experienced enthusiasts.
Enthusiasts become involved because there are HPR's out there who demonstrate consistently what our breeds can do.
There's a lot of PR work before a good ground is offered so trials must include dogs who give a good performance, that's why standards have to be high. A trial's not for training it's the only available shop window we have for promoting HPR working ability,
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BenB
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all makes sense - so we just need to butter up our land-owning friends to get the costs down.
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