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| Forester |
Lost BraccoHi All, Jacob is of my breeding is 3 years old and lightly built for a Bracco, his details can be downloaded from Doglost as below. Please forward his details to anyone you think may be able to help especially if they are in the Essex/ Cambridge Area. Thank you. Kim Parris (my tel 01425 471104)Hi All It's been a hell of a day for Jon and I today. Long story short, Jon took the 4 dogs out this morning early, and over the ridge of the hill unexpectadly encountered a huge herd of deer. Jacob and Solly dissapeared with after 'playing' within the pack which had by then split into 2 directions. Solly and Jacob following one pack. Jon ran after them, but they were too fast, and as we are surrounded with woods, eventually lost them both out of sight. After a short while, thankfully, Solly came back the same way he went and we got him back safely. Unfortunately there was absolutely no sign of Jacob, and ever since 9am this morning we've all been out tracking through the woods, fields and driving around all of the surrounding villages up to some 7 miles. We've had 2 friends out on their horses, as well as lots of walkers and dog walkers alike that have our number and were looking for us too. So far nothing, and it's getting to be freezing outside. We're just about to go out for the last time, and drive round the fields via the farm tracks. We just hope and pray that he is is someones garden, or garage, or a dense area where he can rest til the morning. More than anything, we just hope he's not lying somewhere hurt, even kicked by a deer, that's our main worry. Please, please cross-post this to everyone you know, just in case they are around this area, or know someone that is - I've put him on Doglost, but was wary of listing his Microchip No. in case someone could use it if they found him ??? should I put it on there ?? Anyone know ? We're starting a fresh search tomorrow, and i'll let you know how we get on. Please think good thoughts for him. Thanks all x MISSING Jacob Bracco Italiano, Male - 21/01/2009 - Missing from Saffron Walden, Essex Area - CB11 Registered on 21/01/2009 07828 671550 Help us find Jacob Print this poster from http://www.doglost.co.uk 1000's of dogs are lost each year. Register your dog with www.doglost.co.uk today! or call 0844 800 3220 |
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| Greyghost |
I've crossposted this on the Gundog Training Forum. Really hope you find him soon.......everything crossed here for you. | ||
| Forester |
Thank you.
In my haste to post his details I didn't make it clear I am Jacobs breeder not his owner but am happy to be contacted with any information or suggestions. His full details and pictures of him can be found on doglost. Thanks again Kim |
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| anniebrac |
Has Jacob been found yet? | ||
| taz |
I am also wondering the same. | ||
| guy |
Good luck. Have been there. Two days before return. | ||
| Bracco1 |
JacobHi all,I am jacobs owner after another long day searching and putting up posters/flyers. Still no joy, not one siting. We have a big search going tommorrow on with friends and people off the spin bracco groups. Please can everyone keep their eyes peeled for our boy. |
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| taz |
Can't imagine what you are going through, good luck with your continued search tomoro. | ||
| Bracco1 |
jacobThanks lets hope we get a resultJon |
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| anniebrac |
I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. My thoughts are with you. I know how difficult it is with this breed. If I'm in the forest with my 2 and they take off on a scent trail or after deer, I always stay where I was when they left. When Ruby was youngster I waited 45 minutes for her to return. And she came running back, tongue hanging out and a big smile on her face.
All the best for tomorrow. Will be thinking about you. Best wishes Annie |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobAfter a long day searching with many of our friends still no joy.....will start again tommorrow with more posters and flyersjon |
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| taz |
hi jon,
dont give up hope, he's out there somewhere, i read somewhere that once a bracco went missing for eleven days before being reunited with his owners. glad to see the society has put up a notice and photo on their homepage. taz |
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| munstyman |
Don't take this the wrong way, but have you contacted the local hunt 
Not everyone knows what a Bracco is, and at first glance many would think that its a hound from the local hunt thats gone astray ( as they do  ) and passed him on there, might be worth a phone call.
Peter |
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| Bracco1 |
jacobHi peter,yes we do have several hunts around here and have phoned all of them, also many of the riding clubs....just hoping for a sighting |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobHi All,Jacobs still missing with no sightings, so please keep looking and spreading the word Jon |
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| Greyghost |
Everytime I open this thread I hope that you have found him. Hang in there....... 
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| taz |
me too. keeping everything crossed.
Jon, have you tried to speak to your local postman? give him a flyer and ask him to keep his eyes open for anyone suddenly having a dog like Jacob. A long shot but he will be the one visiting most properties in the area, and might just spot him if someone has taken him in. |
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| Claire |
Gosh I hope he is found safe and well soon! If he is a lovely friendly boy then perhaps someone has taken him in and don't want to part with him. | ||
| newbie |
I have posted this on one of the pointer forums just in case, fingers crossed for you ,
Kerry |
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| Forester |
On behalf of Shelley and Jon thank you for all your kind thoughts, for forwarding the information and for your suggestions. Jacob has got to be to hot to handle now for anyone who may be 'looking after' him, but we need him to remain in people thoughts so keep on mentioning his name and details for us please. Below is a list of all those who have been sent his information so far.
Thanks again. Kim Ramblers association Vets Dog kennels Groomers Trainers Pet shops inc. Pets at Home Cycling clubs Running clubs Horse riding stables Horse vets and dentists Tack shops Feed stores Allotments Young farmers Catteries Cattle breeders Our dogs Dog world Fosse Higham Animal Health Trust Royal Vet college Puppy Register National trust Anglian meat Cristiana Hill Council of docked breeds Canine info directory National association of beaters and pickers up British association for shooting and conservation The following are all the Great Britain clubs for: Cocker spaniel Brittany Curly coated retriever English springer spaniel Labrador Golden retriever Flat coat retriever French Barbet German short hair pointer German wire hair pointer Gordon setter Hungarian vizsla Hungarian wire haired Irish red and white setter Irish setter Irish water spaniel Kookierhondje Lagotto romagnlo Large musterlander Nova Scotia duck tolling retriever Slovakian rough hair pointer Sussex spaniel Weirmaraner Dog walkers Police stations Dog wardens Granada news Caravan and campsites Various forums that we all belong to that are not necessarily dog related All ISCGB members Lakeside shopping centre various radio programmes |
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| johnhod |
Posted link on Brittany Forum and Pickers Up, Beaters and Shoots Forum | ||
| Lynn |
cross posted on "Munsterland" | ||
| Bracco1 |
jacobThanks everyone for the support, We had our first siting today at about 14.45hrs he was in the grounds of Audley end House the rangers tried to get him while we were on our way there ,but must have spooked him so he dissapeared but its only 1.5miles from our house.I have put some new scent down, so fingers crossed he may turn up tonight. Jon |
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| josie |
At least you know he's alive and hasn't been stolen, that must be a big relief  Let's hope he's home soon.
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| taz |
This is good news Jon, at least you know he's in the vicinity, fingers crossed his excellent nose will lead him home. | ||
| Greyghost |
Great news - hopefully he will find his way home tonight. Got everything crossed here. | ||
| guy |
just wonder - do you take the other dog out to help look?
Good luck for today. Don't be surprised if the dog spooks at seeing you and also does not respond to your whistle or voice. |
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| anniebrac |
Hi Jon
I'm so pleased that you have had a sighting of him and he's OK. Hopefully you will be able to be reunied today. Very best of luck. Kind regards Annie |
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| Claire |
Oh bless him. Good news that you've had a sighting and he is still reasonably close to home. I hope you have a successful day today and if I was closer to you I would gladly help in your search.
It just goes to show that even when we think our dogs know the area they live in and know where their home is, they probably don't
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| Bracco1 |
jacobNothing overnight, Guy your right he is definately going to take some careful coaxing, Also he needs to cross a railway and motorway to get back to us , the next siting we get i take a couple of the other dogs out with us this we were out postering unfortunately and were a fair way from the siting. Hope to get another siting today.
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| Lynn |
Have you tried leaving an old coat/jacket of yours on the ground in the area of the siting? Keep positive | ||
| BenB |
Just seen this - really feel for you. Is it worth taking a lamp out at night and looking for him? Drag a meat carcass in a big arc around the area he was last in to lead him away from the main road and into a safer area?
If i was closer would come and help. Fingers crossed. (By the way i lost a ferret underground for over a week recently) and got him back safe and sound - so animals can survive for a long time. |
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| Helen |
Just caught up with this as well. Fingers well and truly crossed you get him back soon.
Helen |
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| Lisa |
yes, fingers crossed
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| newbie |
Any news on Jacob ? | ||
| Bracco1 |
JacobNo news i'm afaid, we were out until 4am this morning, just praying for another siting.jon |
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| guy |
mine stayed in the area. Unfortunately they had gone upwind so had no clue about how to get home save retracing their steps.
They say dogs hunt in circular paths, I don't know if this sort of innate technique still works or has any bearing on where to look. What surprised me was how easily a dog will disappear into the landscape if it wants to even when you were only 100 yards away from it. Not sure any of that helps - but I am thinking of you - good luck today. |
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| BenB |
He is out there somewhere - keep the faith! | ||
| Claire |
Just checking in for an update. Sad to hear he's not home yet and you must all be exhausted with the searching and the worry.
Got everything crossed that he is home safe and sound very soon. xx |
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| santiago |
so sorry to imagine what you are going through. good luck!!!
i am convinced that he is going to be safe with you very shortly. |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobHi allSorry i,ve just pasted this in from the spin group update sorry if some is irrelevent to you guys. Just a really quick update, we're just back in and have managed to get some night vision mono whatsit's - not cheap and the shop didn't have the right lithium battery so we had to drive round to find one - you'd think for near on £200 they'd throw in a bloody battery lol ! Still, let's hope that it'll enable us to spot him, it'll hopefully make all the difference tonight when we're out. Last night I was stumbling around as I go 'blind' as as a bat in the dark, so i'm now the proud owner of a posh led headtorch - least when the police arrest me for tresspassing i'll be able to see them ! Ahhh, well, another day goes by, and now it's dark again, I just can't quite apprehend this is still going on, we so want normality back, whatever happened to normal life - Feels strange to be so out of routine. The whole house is upset without our lovely Jacob, the Spins know he's not here, they are all so on edge bless them. I worry so much for Jacob, but all of your stories about how these dogs survive, and survive well, they really make us reliase that yes he can be okay out there, given the elements, he can make it back to us eventually. We just pray it's soon. I think we owe a huge Thanks to Philippa, for getting us into Dogs Today, Thanks for that Pippa, and a huge Thanks to Kim and Abby for the breed notes too. All this support is just fantastic, we don't know how we'd cope on our own, I know without your messages of encouragement and ideas we'd have long ago gone to peices. Jon's feeling crappy today, I think it's pent up frustration, guilt, anger (that he ran off walk) and just generally feeling bloody knackered. We're both run down, but hey, it's expected to show somewhere, so we'll get over it and carry on, we have to for Jacob's sake. We can sob and feel sorry for ourselves later, when he's home. There's a shot tomorrow as Sarah said, but there are enough people on both who know us and will look out for Jacob, no point us being in the same place. Really right now, without a positive sighting, we are at a loose end as to using the traps etc, it's just we need so badly the second sighting to know he's still in this area. Just wishing for the mobile to ring and it'll be just that. Still considering the pet communicator girls, will bear that in mind. Thanks for the referrals. Also once we get the second sighting, the bitches in season would be a great idea, right now it's too difficult to know where to walk them, he could literally be miles away. <sigh> Right, must go and get some food before we head off for the night Thanks again everyone, we'll send you an update soon as we can or via Sarah Did anyone say they had access to thermal imaging ? I haven't time to read the 522 emails to find out Thank YOU from us both Jon www.adoredpaws.com |
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| Greyghost |
Hang in there guys. Don't rule out the communicator - there are a lot of unexplained things go on out there - worth a try. Hugs.... | ||
| newbie |
Any news yet ? | ||
| guy |
Hoping no news is good news. | ||
| helenthomas |
My heart sincerley goes out to you. Maybe todays the day. Keeping everything crossed.
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| Forester |
Jacob was sighted yesterday near a village called Debden, Jon and Shelley got there asap but he had moved on.
As much as I'm very worried about Jacob I'm now equally worried for Jon and Shelley how much longer they can keep this up without making themselves ill I don't know, they are out night and day searching. Kim |
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| BenB |
Good news about the sighting - have they got no helpers? | ||
| countrygirl |
I know lat weekend the was a mass search alot of people for various breed clubs turned out to help. Good news that he is still being seen, lets hope he lets somebody catch him soon, I cant imagin what his owners must be going through Im a bag of nerves if I lose mine for even a short time
Caz |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobHi All,Still no joy ,its been very long weekend so near but yet so far, its really frustrating and now the snow is falling. Lets hope he shows tommorrow. Jon |
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| Forester |
Please take care of yourselves Jon, you know I'm here if you need me for anything.
Kim |
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| taz |
Still keeping my fingers crossed for you Jon.
Kim said he was spotted near Debden, is that closer to you than the first sighting ? Is he moving closer to home ? Hope so. |
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| Claire |
Oh I had really hoped you would have found him by now. This is a bit of a long shot really but perhaps with the snow falling there might just be a chance of you seeing dog paw prints unaccompanied with human footprints? Suggesting a dog is out on its own? Probably a daft thought but its come into my head so sharing anyway  Has there been any broadcasts put out on the local radio? Thinking if someone was driving along with the radio on they might hear him being mentioned and keep an eye out as they drive. Bound to be lots of delivery drivers doing their rounds.
Still wishing you lots of luck. |
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| Helen |
I really thought he would have been found now as well. So sorry that you are having to go through this nightmare. Fingers still WELL and truly crossed for a safe return.
Helen |
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| guy |
I have convinced myself he is still OK - he must have been feeding on something - mine were seen feeding on cat food.
they also kept revisiting the same spots and seemed to hang around dwellings with other dogs. fingers and paws crossed here. |
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| santiago |
dogs can survive many many days. if he has been seen, it means he has not been stolen and therefore it is just a question of having a little bit of luck.
luck that you clearly deserve because of the way you are fighting. cannot wait for the post that says that he is back with you. |
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| Lisa |
Can't believe he has been missing so long! Keep strong and I'm sure your luck will change soon. x
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| Bracco1 |
JacobThanks everyone for your comments and support, we,ve just got back in and got very hopefull about two hours ago i picked a track of a lone dog thats had print very like jakey and moved very much the same was he does it was in a wood very near to carver barracks where he was spotted on sat,needless to say after about 30 mins tracking through woods the tarck came to an abrupt end on a track with lots of human/dog track...gutted....anyway he has had airtime on radio 1 , Heart radio and BBC essex, he also has articles in this weeks local papers..Does anyone know if tracking dog of any kind will track other dogs???? Thanks again everyone Jon |
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| cressy |
I think a trained bloodhound might - certainly worth asking if there are any bloodhound forums out there.
Also see if you can ask Search and Rescue groups, they may have pointers or tips. Fingers crossed you have him home soon. |
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| Danielle Mason |
I really hope Jacob finds his way home soon. Just a thought but have you been keeping an eye out in pets for sale section of papers? As dogs that have been found sometimes appear. I am sure he is managing to feed himself. Afterall he is an hpr and in desperate measures im sure he will do what needs to be done. Good luck. | ||
| windem bang |
I hope you find your dog soon. If it helps at all ,last year up my way a very shy young lab went missing and although seen fairly often it stayed away from the people it met. He was eventually returned to his owner after 5 months of living in the wild. It is thought that he ate sheep droppings plus an odd rabbit etc. He was very thin but otherwise O.K.
Dogs are much tougher than most folk think. I wish you every bit of luck going in finding your dog . Bill T. |
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
There is a search and rescue team based over at Ely if thats any good. | ||
| newbie |
Any news on Jacob ? | ||
| Bracco1 |
jacobHi,Still no more sighting getting really worried now, it has gone out in all the local papers this week also had reporters around last night from national papers.....but all we really want is a sighting. Just hoping he is hunkered down somewhere and will poke his head out when the weather gets better, Trying to check all farm buildings and disused barns at the moment. will keep you posted Jon |
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| windem bang |
My best wishes and hopes go with you Jon.
Bill T. |
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| newbie |
Thats not so good keeping fingers crossed for you all
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| helenthomas |
Thinking of you all.
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| greylag |
try and keep the local papers and news running your story,i think hes tucked up nice and cosy in sumbodys house. they prob dont realise how desperate you are.hope hes home soon | ||
| Bracco1 |
jacobHi All,look at the links these are couple of articles we managed to get published it just a shame the press have to have angle ie: physic but any press that will get jacob back is good, also think were in the Mirror today . Jon http://edition.pagesuite-professi...1-6690-4b99-aae2-a954ac4237c6.pdf http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...gles-animal-psychic-lost-dog.html |
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| Dave A |
The news article was on the BBC this morning | ||
| Bracco1 |
JacobHi Everyone,I thought i'd update you on today's searching and events. As some of you will know, Joanne has continued to be of the greatest support with helping us locate Jacob. She had seen him in a dark place, maybe corrugated iron, he's sore down the left side, possibly his hip, or leg. She also saw him licking the snow, and eating from a wrapper. She feels he is near/in an allotment and nearby a school. She said he is missing us both and wants his blankets. I can't tell you reading that has broken my heart. If I didn't feel so dam ill with this bronchitis i'd be out all day and all night. I am so mad with myself for getting ill. We have scoured the allotments in surrounding areas this morning. Took every piece of old carpet and wood, and glass, iron, up just to make sure he wasn't there. sadly nothing. No signs. We postered heavily around those areas (surely we'll be done for littering soon !) Jon went out again this afternoon, I guess the time apart let us both let out some tears, and for that I think we both (albeit secretly) feel relief. This evening having seen Jon and Stew on ITV Anglia news, we have every hope that something good will come from it. I saw Ffion on the National News too, (the Doctor who has lost Sky the black lab in Leicestershire) and thought that has only got to be a good sign. 5 minutes later a call came through saying that a lady had managed to catch a dog very similar looking to Jacob some 15 miles away, and at least 2 weeks before. Hearts in mouth, the lady continued to say that as she has a dog at home, and he just isn't dog friendly, another lady who helped with the capture agreed she would take him to a friend. Luckily, this lady was travelling on the same road as the other lady with the captured dog, so saw her drop off at a specific house. It was only having seen Jacob on the news this evening did she feel she had to ring us to tell of the dog she had caught. A long story short, it now materialises this dog is apparently from the local hunt, the lady in question actually went this evening to the house she saw the other lady drop off at, (I am sure she could hear our hearts beating very loudly, and sensed our hanging on her every word!) Unfortunately, on arrival to the house, she was told the dog was returned to the local hunt the very same evening. <Hugest Sigh> Determined that we needed the full closure on this possible dog being Jacob, we are now waiting on the local huntsman confirming that yes, he did take in a dog on that day, and no it wasn't Jacob. I am sure that all hunt dogs are tattooed???? so hope they can easily rule out having a domestic dog in with the pack. I guess we may well get some hoaxes now. We know Ffion and Tim did, but we will follow them up as valid leads, as at this stage we are so damn desperate. We already seem to have made 'friends' with a very strange man who says he is distraught that Jacob is missing, and that he loves all animals, and rehomes them, and is very psychic. We sit, we listen, he seems harmless.....how do you tell him to go away when he feels he is helping I do not know. We don't need any enemies right now that's for sure. So, that's where we are at right now, nothing else to go on really, we just need to wait on calls that will hopefully come from the news article. Oh and i'm compiling a blog so that it will be easier for me to update everyone, It has really helped Ffion and Tim, there efforts have been amazing, they share some real highs and lows in their search for Sky their black lab now missing for almost 10 weeks. http://skyisstillmissing.blogspot.com/ |
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| BenB |
hi
The huntsman will know his hounds and yes they will all be tattooed. There is no chance he would mistake a bracco for one of his pack. Fingers still crossed. Ben |
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| newbie |
Keeping everything crossed for you
Kerry |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobJacob is still missing, we have been on a couple of wild goose chases in the last few days.http://missingbraccojacob.blogspot.com/ Jon |
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| BenB |
Have you tried the nearest gypsy/ traveller camp?
Even if they haven't got him - if they know there is a reward at stake they may help. They often have eyes and ears where we don't. Best of luck |
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| Bracco1 |
jacobStill not got Jacob home, all sorts running through our minds now very painful not knowing,where,what he is doing.Please everyone keep an ear to the ground. Jon |
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| Greyghost |
The pair of you must be going through hell Jon. I am still putting in positive vibes. Hang in there..... | ||
| newbie |
I though for a minute it was going to be good news fingers crossed for you still,hopefully you will have good news soon
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| BritAnnie |
Can't believe he's still missing - any further sightings? | ||
| Breehant |
Oh, Jon & Shelly,
I can't believe Jacob has still not been found. I have been following his story on the doglost site, and was so hoping for good news. I really do admire you both, you have shown such strength of character by not giving up on this special boy, hopefully now the cages are down you will have a much deserved dose of Good Luck and manage to get a result, and your beloved Jacob is returned home to you where he belongs. It must be absolutley heartbreaking for you both to have to go through this, I know how I would feel if it was one of my Spins, devestating is not the word. Sending love and praying for Jacobs safe return. Take care XXXX 
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| windem bang |
I can only echo the above post. I wish you all the luck there is.
Bill T. |
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| Lisa |
me too
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| Bracco1 |
JacobHi Guys,Thanks again for the support,Just been out postering a new area as we've had a reasonably confident sighting on the edge of Bishop stortford, Herts. Although it was last wednesday at about 7.30pm...hopefully we might get a couple more calls from the posters, jogging memories...we'll see. http://missingbraccojacob.blogspot.com/ Jon |
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| BenB |
Are there are point to points near you that might be worth attending? You do get people from all over the area at them. | ||
| BritAnnie |
That's almost 2 months he's been gone. Someone must have taken him in and not reported it. He can't surely have survived this long without human assistance? I do hope this sighting is positive and you can now get him back. I can't understand people taking animals in and not saying - they are all owned by someone -, even my ducks! I'd be furious if they wandered off and someone kept them. Someone was feeding my cat and I gave them a good telling off as he's MY cat not theirs, and they had 6 of their own! | ||
| Greyghost |
Cross posted from Gundog Training Forum:
Jon and Shelley Haggerwood are following up a reported sighting of a Bracco in Eastbourne on Sunday at about 12 to 12.30. Obviously this may well have been someone innocently walking their own dog but the Haggerwoods need to eliminate it for their peace of mind. I know that some of you here have Braccos so if you were on Eastbourne seafront on Sunday with your dog or know of a Bracco owner who was, could you please let them know, or let me know and i will pass it on to them. Many thanks. Gill |
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| BritAnnie |
I have forwarded the recent email from Jacob's owners along with the photographs of him to Our Dogs Breed notes editor and Facebook Manager. They will both assist by publishing these. | ||
| Bracco1 |
jacobThanks for doing that, I dont know if you have been following the blog but we've just been stiched up and wasted 2months looking in the wrong place.http://missingbraccojacob.blogspot.com Many thanks jon |
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| windem bang |
I've just read about the woman who tricked you. I would love to wring her scraggy neck !
Still wishing you luck and a happy ending. Bill T. |
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| Greyghost |
Ditto and double ditto. Have faith. |
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| Helen |
I was hoping for good news Fingers still well and truly crossed.
Helen |
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| Bracco1 |
JOCOBClick this link, This is the lovely woman that decieved us..http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/n...n_conned_cancer_victims_for_cash/ Hopefully we will get some more publicity out of, at least that willraise Jacobs profile again.. Jon Anyone going to the spin working test, I will be there with clue only at special beginners, its his first go at it.... |
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| Fiona and Otter |
Hi Jon
I'll be at the Spinone Test (you may spot me as I don't have a Spinone but a mad Munsterlander). Do come and say hi (as you are more likely to recognise me as there will be mode Spinone's than Munsters). It would be lovely to meet you, as I have been following Jacobs campaign and praying for good news. |
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| windem bang |
I have been wondering .........is there any news of Jacob yet ?
Best wishes Bill T. |
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| Forester |
Lost BraccoThanks for asking Bill,Jon and Shelley are still following up possible sightings, one this week, but sadly Jacob is still missing. Kim |
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| windem bang |
He is still in my mind and every time I see a Bracco - which isn't often - I take a very close look .
Bill T. |
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| Bracco1 |
JacobYes thanks for asking Bill, As kim said we were following up a lead this week but unfortunately it wasn't our boy.We are still trying to keep his profile going by emailing Vets,Dog Warden etc nationwide. I think at this stage thats all we can do. Thanks again Jon |
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