josie
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speak on commandOk, I don't do WTs but I want to kick start the WT forum 
I have trained my dog to speak on command, but somehow I have also inadvertently trained in a little jump on her front paws as she barks at me!! 
I'm not sure how to keep the bark but eliminate the jump, since both happen simultaneously....
I guess I could put her lead on and stand on it, so she couldn't jump, but I think she might try to do it again when I stop standing on the lead and I'd prefer to find a solution that doesn't involve physically making her do something (or not do something).
Also - how do I get her to do the speak on command in different positions? If I put her in a Down and tell her to speak, she will leap up and woof! How do I train the speak whilst holding the position? Thanks.
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Mike
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Harley does the little leap thing as well! And when told to speak lets out a funny meow sort of noise!!!! really need to wind him up to get him to bark 
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josie
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To solve the meow noise, I think you just don't click it - you only click the nice big woofs that you want!!
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Allyson
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The speak on command must be thoroughly taught and generalised.
Like everything else it needs to be done in incremental steps.
First of all you have to decide what it is you are actually training.
For the speak you reinforce any noise, once a squeak progresses into a woof you then only reinforce the woof so that the dog never offers a squeak or "mimes" etc.
Then once the bark is instant (no rewards for second or third attempts) you then work on the duration with variable reinforcement ie for 1 bark, then 5 barks, then 2 barks etc so that you get a very very strong behaviour.
Once this is on cue only then chain it with a position. The position must also be very strong.
FWIW I "cue" my dogs that a speak is going to come once I have trained in the "quiet" on command eg if the judge wants me to put the dog in a sit and leave it and then ask it to speak I say "sit, quiet", the dog then knows it must remain sitting and that the next thing I am going to say is "speak".
Then you just progress to the down, stand, out of sight, on a table, in a cage, in a car, whilst walking to heel, being held by someone else etc etc etc
HTH
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Greyghost
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Would be nice if I could get mine to bark in the first place. Had no bother with the last girl.
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Allyson
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Dogs generally bark out of frustration, and so you just need to frustrate her enough 
Les, have you tried holding her food in one hand out of her reach and at the slightest vocalisation clicking and giving her her food?
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Greyghost
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This girl does not frustrate easily. I have tried that. 
I have been trying to avoid doing it with food for obvious reasons. When she barks at passersby through the window I try and capture it. The only reason I want her to bark to order is so I can get her to tell me when she wants to go out. Sometimes I come downstairs and she is sitting patiently waiting at the door - like I have eyes in the back of my head.
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Allyson
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Personally, and this is OMHO, I would never train my dogs to bark to go out.
My view is that I tell my dogs what to do and when they can do it, not the other way around.
Dogs are pretty smart and will just learn to bark whenever they want to go out as opposes to whenever they NEED to go out!
Capturing a behaviour like this will take much longer than luring it IMV..........
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