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tail injury

hi folks looking for  a wee bit advice i have a 7 month old vizsla which i keep in doors her tail undocked but the past week the tip off her tail is bleeding just with hitting it of things its getting blood everywhere just wondering can the vets dock her tail now because of this injury i will be going to vets next week anyway
weima

Some vets will amputate and others won't. From what I have heard of other tail injuries and not all from traditionally docked breeds, it is best to amputate to the normal docking length rather than amputating the injury as it is likely to keep happening.
Holmes

We have used these protectors to good effect .

http://www.bonovate.com/dogends.html

Use a none stick dressing first though to provide padding and protection. You may also have to do something to stop your dog taking it off.
windem bang

The Vizsla pup of 10 months old I am training has a full length tail. A couple of months ago it was bleeding badly at the tip end. Her owners found a vet willing to operate but he wanted to try some kind of cream first. The cream has worked and her tail no longer bleeds. In a way, I am unhappy about this for I feel certain that sooner or later it will bleed again.
Her tail is very long and very whippy. I work her a lot in thick cover alongside my spaniels and this does not seem to be the cause of the bleeding. It seemed to happen inside the house not outside it.

I would still prefer her tail to be docked and I'm told the fee for this would be around 300 . It's a nice little earner for the vets no matter whether the tail has to be docked at that age or if they just keep treating the injuries to it.

Bill T.
Bob Wright

I have had it happen several times on dogs and Hounds. The Vets come up with this big moral issue about treating the wound, not necessarily the cause etc. It will keep happening, no matter how much steroid cream they keep prescribing for it and obviously you having to pay! Be very forceful and tell them you want the tail gone, they may insist on just taking the tip off, but if you re-assure them it is a working dog and get written authentication, they MAY take it back to where it should be.
I have seen it so many times it frustrates me, to think the cause is so easy to avoid, with a quick snip!!
rab

just got back from the vets with amber vet said her tail wouldn't heel right so he said would be better to get docked which im glad about he said it will cost about 150 so happy at that booked in for thursday morning just wish she and other pups could have been docked when they were pups  Mad
Helen

Hope the op goes well.  That fact that you are having to have the op should be reported to someone.  I'm sure there is someone collating data of that type of thing.

Helen
rab

cheers helen a woman from glasow uni is collecting data i just wish these clowns would lift the ban but thats just my thoughts on it
rab

this tail injury is a nightmare to heel thats a week and a half and since the op and its still bleeding been to vets 3 times with her and back again on monday i think amber has burst a stich hope not ive now put a stronger muzzle on her since thats 3 collars shes brocken and a muzzle hope we dont need to get this done again what a nightmare Evil or Very Mad
BenB

Am I way out the loop? I thought gun dog breeds fit for purpose can still be docked? I am talking about pups.
terrier

i would never dream of buying an undocked pup for work. Leave the undocked litters to the show ponies
Bareve

terrier wrote:
i would never dream of buying an undocked pup for work. Leave the undocked litters to the show ponies


In doing so then you automatically discount every single HPR born in Scotland....  all those talented breeders with proven working lines denied the chance to dock Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes   There's no-body who works their dogs as much as Wildman up in the borders and his dogs haven't been docked for a long time and when we last spoke about this topic I've had more tail injuries on my one and only undocked litter than he has had from all of his litters Confused  Confused  Confused  

Plus it was the owners of the "show ponies" that campaigned the right to continue to dock dogs which ended up in allowing working dogs to be docked in England and Wales - can't see many gamekeepers sitting at a computer and writing letters to the MP's and Lords and don't believe that BASC did the campaigning all on their own neither  Wink  Wink  Wink
Helen

BenB wrote:
Am I way out the loop? I thought gun dog breeds fit for purpose can still be docked? I am talking about pups.


They can in England and Wales.  Scotland have an outright ban, England and Wales allow docking if you can prove they are working dogs.  

Helen
Claire

During the campaign I was living in Scotland and I was one of the "show ponies" who spent time supporting this campaign and took days off work to stand outside of Holyrood protesting with my docked weimaraners.  I recall the involvement of the likes of the SGA, SCA etc. and I know who was shouting the loudest...... Rolling Eyes   Very Happy
rab

well its not looking good back at the vets last night and the tail doesnt seem to be healing going back on thursday to see if it needs to get another op futher down cant fault the vets its just a nigthmare to heel amber is only a pup so it doesnt help she just wants to play all the time thanks for all the replies rab
Claire

Bless her, she won't understand either poor wee soul.  Hope you eventually get it sorted.
Helen

What a nightmare !  Fingers crossed it does eventually heal.

Helen
langhaar

Even those dogs bred from pure working stock since 1879 get tail injuries. Evi isn't a show pony, she's a determined Longhair who will enter the thickest of covers and now pays the price.It's not a pretty sight either on a shoot day watching a white dog with a red tip on her tail. Tail injuries are a nightmare and another one too with the HV pup. Yes she's undocked but she is sired by my dog so I know she has the qualities I was looking for, sweeping statements lack substance in my opinion. Wink
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