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| lagopuslagopus |
The Patter of Tiny PawsA few weeks ago we had a trip over to Germany so that 'the Pink' - Inca (Tarkanya Lytas Lassie) could have a 'play' with her betrothed - a lovely german lad. It was love at first sight (and second). Yesterday we went down to Cambridge for a scan, not that I had any doubts after the rather peculiar behaviour she has been exhibiting lately! It was confirmed that she is expecting the patter of lots of tiny paws around the middle of April
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| windem bang |
Many congrats  
Bill T. |
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| Hollie |
oh how exciting cant wait to see the pic's!!!
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| Bareve |
Lovely news Karen - I am so pleased for you. Fingers crossed that the rest of her pregnancy goes well and the pups make a happy entrance into the world. 
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| weima |
Great news. Lots of pics is a must!!
I know when I mated Pagan from the day she was mated she was acting so weird & out of character really that there was never any doubt she wasn't pregnant. |
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| josie |
Ooo, congrats! | ||
| Ghilliegumdrop |
If she has dozens I am not painting them ALL
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| Lynn |
Super news - looking forward to seeing them | ||
| münstermanager |
Congratulations! All fingers firmly crossed. That's great news
Sue & Ian |
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| guy |
Well done Inca - look forward to hearing about their birth! | ||
| langhaar |
Sounds good Karen, well done. Is this a new German sire or has he progeny in the UK? | ||
| Rhimad |
oohhhh Puppies : Congrats hope all goes well
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| Lynn |
"Is this a new German sire or has he progeny in the UK?"
He's not been used here before though he has the same male topline as Alex vd Lippe that Christine and I used in 2000 |
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| Mike |
Good luck Karen! Hope it all goes as well as hoped
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| Helen |
Ooh, exciting. Congratulations.
Helen |
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| sashalgwps |
Great news
Alex |
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| Fiona and Otter |
Excellent news Karen. I guess that will make Otter an Uncle, or maybe Great Uncle (he is a Tarkanya to). I hope they inherit his wonderful temperment but less of his lunacy (though I think that is down to his trainer -oops  )
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| maxine mccullough |
Re: The Patter of Tiny Paws
Good luck with the birth Karen - I admire your determination, having done this myself I know how hard it can be. We drove through driving hail, rain and snow, freezing temperatures and had a horrid sea crossing - hope your journey was better. Maxine |
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| lagopuslagopus |
Thanks to everybody for your good wishes. We were lucky Maxine and had a good journey and apart from the icy starts in the morning it was like spring. Inca should have nearly two weeks to go - I'm sure she will have exploded by then! Never having had a litter before it's a bit scary. | ||
| Greyghost |
Congrats. Can't wait to see the pics. Will you be making little collars for them out of your lanyards, bit like knitting bootees really
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| sashalgwps |
You will be fine Karen
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
Think of all those nappies Karen....and the midnight feeds, I hope you have bought a BIG bottle sterilizer 
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| lagopuslagopus |
I really hope Jan that there are not going to be as many as Helen thinks there may be! I've told Inca that 9 would be quite a nice number as long as they are mostly little pink ones. As for sleepless nights - I don't sleep very well anyway but I have got a mattress downstairs in the puppy room ready! Sterilizer? We'll have to make do with a bucket if we need one unless my daughter has got any of the self sterilizing bottles left from her last baby, now they were a good invention. I'm not going to need different coloured collars either as they will all be different patterns so I'll know who is who! (I hope). | ||
| Ghilliegumdrop |
Been there and done that....thank goodness the Ghilldog has never had the inclination to have pups [or the seasons] 
And before her up there says anything....I know it's my fault 
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| lagopuslagopus |
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| Mike |
Brilliant Karen, hope it was all straightforward! Looking forward to some puppy pics
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| cressy |
Oh bless, off to wet the babies head (hey any excuse ).
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| Greyghost |
Ooow I'll join you Sue Congratulations Karen. Can't wait to see the pics.
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| josie |
Ahhh, cute! But I am trying to do the maths here - does 16 + 12 paws make 14 puppies?!!? That's a lot a lot a puppies!!!!!!!! | ||
| Helen |
Congratulations
Helen |
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| Greyghost |
I make that 7 
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| lagopuslagopus |
Josie - 16 pink paws = 4 and 12 blue paws = 3!
They were all around 500g which is why there were only 7 I guess but I'd much rather that than what I had been threatened with! No need to bottle feed and they are more than spoken for (hopefully). Inca started at 1.55am and was all finished by 7.10. Really calm throughout and quite relaxed. It was just us really who couldn't decide if there were any more. They all started to suckle immediately and are really strong. She's such a clever girl. |
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| josie |
Duh, maths was never my strong point!!!! | ||
| karenb |
Congratulations ....
karen |
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
I LOVE Flatcoats
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| Bareve |
Great news - can't wait to see the photos as they grow
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| Lynn |
Ahhhhhh four girls and three boys. At first I thought you were being ultra clever and telling us how many are Mum's colour and how many the colour of Dad
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| guy |
i will relax with a glass of wine on your and their behalf tonight ..great news.
Josie i love the maths - I bet you do 'It was a terrific bargin and with the money I saved i bought another' |
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| münstermanager |
YAHOO, Many congratulations to Inka and to Unkas and to Karen & Geoff on the arrival of the puppies. We're looking forward to seeing pup pics too. Weird, I kept thinking about Inka today, so am delighted to hear the news. We're certainly toast them all tonight
I missed all the last posts and just saw Josie's 14 pup post Both Beecham & Bosco came from litters of 13 
Sue |
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| Helen S |
Well done Inca!
Helen S |
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| sashalgwps |
Well done again Karen and Inca - clever girl.
Looking forward to seeing them
Alex |
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| lagopuslagopus |
We've just realised this morning that in our sleepy state on Friday morning we made a bit of a cock-up! We have got 5 bitches and 2 dogs!
2 days old |
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| Greyghost |
So one cock down then  Hope you are managing to get some sleep
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| BritAnnie |
It's not unusual to make this mistake - Richard told me that they were all dogs in Allez's litter. Three of them changed sex in the middle of the night to become little girls.
BA |
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| Linda W |
So they're not bi-s*xual then
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
This happens quite a lot with kittens One litter of Burmese that I bred and advertised this know all woman came along and chose her little girl so she could breed a litter when the kitten was old enough. Despite being told it was a male she insisted that she knew it was a girl and took it....Several days later she rang up to say her vet had said it wasn't what she had bought and could she come and change it. As the others had all gone by then the answer was no, I did point out that she was the one who had chosen the kitten and said it was a girl. She huffed a bit but did conceed that it was her own fault and agreed to keep him, just as well I got anyone who bought a kitten from me to sign a form to say the kitten was what they wanted etc
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| lagopuslagopus |
They are now one week old. The time is going so quickly. A couple are already trying to walk properly. |
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| Alkemist |
They look lovely, many congratulations on what looks to be a happy content litter,
Nina |
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| lagopuslagopus |
Thank you Nina. They are lovely and growing so fast. | ||
| Bareve |
It's amazing how quickly time goes when you have puppies They certainly look nice and even in size.
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| Helen |
aww, they are gorgeous.
Helen |
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| münstermanager |
They look lovely, Karen. Nice & chunky & even and well-marked, by the looks of it. Which one is yours? How's Inca doing?
Sue |
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| lagopuslagopus |
The one with its bottom between the top two horizontal ones Sue! Inca is fine and doing really well. | ||
| Bareve |
By the time this has been written do we take it that you got disturbed or were you just going to get up early
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| lagopuslagopus |
My clock must be wrong on here it was an hour later. Should I have changed something with the clocks? I just decided to get up when Geoff got up for a change. | ||
| münstermanager |
I'm glad that Inca is fine and doing well. Pup looks really lovely. Have you named her or will you wait?
Sue |
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| Bareve |
I haven't a clue - I just supposed Inca or the puppies had woken you up so you got up to deal with them
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| BritAnnie |
You are supposed to go into your profile and change from GMT to GMT+1 or vice versa. I can never remember which it should be so I tend to leave it sometimes. | ||
| lagopuslagopus |
The proud mum at 12 days. They are now walking around and eyes are beginning to open.
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| sashalgwps |
Lovely Karen 
Alex |
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| Lisa |
Wow! What a proud looking mum and gorgeous pups!! You must be very proud too! | ||
| lagopuslagopus |
We are 19 days old today. The front has been taken off of our box and we have our first taste of freedom.
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| cressy |
Aw bless them - what a lovely pic. | ||
| Martyn |
How did you manage that picture? - I find it problematic getting a picture of one dog.
Of course - you have already started training them - sit stay this week - retrieving next week
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| lagopuslagopus |
Hi Martyn. Just blew the whistle and they all sat in a row
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| Helen |
Aww, they are gorgeous pups. Look really strong and healthy.
Is there a preference (in general) about having the blaze or not? iyswim! Helen |
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| Martyn |
Karen, it wouldn't surprise me
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
That's a lovely picture...you could make up bookmarks and flog them on here
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| Linda W |
Helen, regarding a blaze, there is nothing wrong in it, but most people tend to want a solid black head. The standard actually calls for a solid black head, blaze or snip allowed. Looking at the pic I think that most of the white will disappear. Possibly leaving a nice silvery looking blaze, or a muzzle that gives it the look of an older dog. LOL. | ||
| Rhimad |
What a lovely picture, they are gorgeous puppies | ||
| Helen |
Thanks Linda. I was just wondering as I don't think I've seen many LM with white blazes but if they are going to more silvery, that's probably why lol.
Have to say, my favourite is the one in the middle. Helen |
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| Greyghost |
Awww lovely pic Karen and so well trained already
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| lagopuslagopus |
For those of you who need a 'puppy fix' Updated 14-05-08
http://s261.photobucket.com/album...urrent=puppyvideoupto14-05-08.flv |
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| lagopuslagopus |
These photos were taken last Friday when they were four weeks old. I can't believe how quickly the weeks are passing. Before we know it they will be gone.
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| Helen |
Awww, gorgeous! I'll have the second one lol.
Helen |
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| Benreeda |
The heads on the second one and fourth one remind me of pups I had in a litter Just send one to me. They are lovely.
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| münstermanager |
Super photos, Karen. And, really super looking pups. You must all be very pleased.
Sue |
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| windem bang |
Good looking pups - there's some right little bruisers in there !
Bill T. |
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| lagopuslagopus |
They are really doing well Bill.
Here's my little Indie starting as we mean to go on (I hope) 
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| BritAnnie |
But the one in the fourth photo has two heads AND two tails
Are you sure you want it, Patrushka?
Well it looks that way anyway. Have another look at it, there's one behind another
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| lagopuslagopus |
I hadn't looked at it in tha way Annie! | ||
| Benreeda |
Yes I like two heads eight legs one body and could make a fortune showing it off and charging a viewing fee.
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| lagopuslagopus |
One of the chaps having a puppy brought a collared dove with him yesterday so we had a play.
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| BritAnnie |
Pat said
She got more than she bargained for but I'll let her tell you all about that in due course |
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| Benreeda |
I thought at first the dove was living till I saw photo and did wonder how you could play with it. What an idiot.
By the way I have 52 legs 13 heads 13 tails What do I have apart from a nervous breakdown? |
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| BritAnnie |
You have 13 well bred GWP babies that I can't wait to see photos of. If I'd still been 'oop nath' I'd have been over like a shot as soon as you said they could be seen. And no, I'm not having one - I have enough on my plate. Bet they'll be great workers and temperament with those lines, as well as good lookers
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| Greyghost |
What a confident looking little pupster. Not long before they leave home is it??? | ||
| lagopuslagopus |
Not long at all - the time has just flown by. | ||
| Benreeda |
the pup is really smart. That is a great photo | ||
| BritAnnie |
Pat says "Having pups is exhausting for Les and Rudi. Good job the cup is empty Note Les has the remote!"
Click to see full size image |
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| lagopuslagopus |
Benreeda - Congratulations. You'll have your hands full with that lot! | ||
| Benreeda |
thanks. We have shared them out so three of us feeding. They are strong and sucking well. My daughter phoned last night to say that one had climed out of the box and then others followed. Can't believe it. They are now5 days today. I think some of the problems with Willow was we didn't have her as a pup or train her so she is not used to doing everything she is told. Our bitches would just stand still whatever and let pups suck. Never had this before. She has a wonderful temperament so can't complain as this was very worrying for her. She is back to her usual self and quite happy! | ||
| Liz |
Glad the babes are doing well, Pat. | ||
| lagopuslagopus |
This is mainly for Helen so you can see how the white has changed on their faces so far. They will still go darker. They will be seven weeks on Friday and some of them are going to their new homes.
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| Linda W |
Now I'm getting broody
I just love the way the colour changes on munster puppies. Oh well, maybe next year........
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| Benreeda |
One of our bitch puppies died and we are really upset. These things happen but isn't easy after one week. Would post photo's but don't know how to. | ||
| lagopuslagopus |
Sorry to hear that. Are you having to hand feed them all or are they with the bitch now? | ||
| Dave A |
Benreeda
Sorry to hear about the lose of your pup, I Didn't quite catch what you were trying to say in your previous post. Has your bitch failed to feed the pups and are you hand rearing ? I had a problem with a bitch that had been brilliant,Then she wouldn't feed them and walked about with a pup in her mouth all the time , It turned out to be eclampsia (i think thats how you spell it ). Dave A |
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| BritAnnie |
Photos of Pat's GWP puppies
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| lagopuslagopus |
It seems a lifetime ago that ours were that size. | ||