Vizsla dog wanted up to 2 years of age

langhaar · Vizsla dog wanted up to 2 years of age

Rough shooting man is looking for a dog which would be suitable for a home with children. One that has been run on for the ring but not made the grade would be ideal. Country home. No silly prices!

tashap

have you contacted the club?? They might know of a nice dog.

http://www.btinternet.com/~hvs.vizsla/hvsintro.htm

DesO'Neile

Am I reading this right? You are suggesting that a show bred dog might be ideal for a rough shooting man??????????????

weima

langhaar

I have a " show" bred vizsla with a CC and 5 reserves at under 2years of age. He was graded first time out on grouse and pheasant and dogged in for me on the Blenheim Estate last year. This is a first on this estate for HPR's and he is an intergral part of the team, not for looking pretty and bull ......ing about. His dam we made up to a full Ch too. Just because a dog may be " show bred " doesn't mean it can't work. He's not looking for a field trial champion!
Are you suggesting HPR's aren't dual purpose or are you suggesting I don't know this breed? This kennel has owned and or bred 3 Ch and 3 Sh Ch Vizsla's so I think we know a little about this breed.

DesO'Neile

The two that have responded seem a little defensive. To say the least. The exact wording was "Ideal". The thrust of the original comment was that a failed show dog would make an "ideal" rough shooting dog. There is no middle ground with the word "ideal". To me that means the very best option. I understand that there is a greater element of showing in the HPR world, especially on the continent from where the very best working stock comes. Where did I suggest the man wanted a F.T.Ch? What he probably does want is a dog capable of doing all that a F.T.Ch. does do, but to a lesser degree of polished performance. I didn't intend to hi-jack this thread and I certainly didn't intent to have a pop at the breed or anybody associated with it but I am aghast that anybody could suggest that a dog that didn't make the grade at anything, would be ideal for anything else. My advice to anyone looking for a dog to work would be to look at working dogs. If you see work that you like the pedigree is of secondary importance.

langhaar

That was the rough shooters suggestion , not mine.

BritAnnie

HPR's MUST be kept dual purpose - My Brittanys would all work if I put the effort into their training. My 6year old bitch with 2 CCs has been shot over (roughshooting) with complements, my younger bitch(2 1sts at a Champ Show under a French judge) won the TAN (under the same French judge)at the Club weekend, and previously was worked with birds of prey, and my young lad, who was awarded Best in Show at Gundog Breeds on Sunday is currently being trained hopefully for Trialling. There is no reason why a failed HPR show dog could not be a FT champion! And this is not on the defensive it is fact - HPR breeders across the world have bred for duality for more than a century.
Annie

windem bang

I move very tentatively into this one ! Surely it would all depend on the individual dog ? H.P.R.'s are said to be dual purpose but not all of them are, some favour one side of things more than the other. If a perfectly nice failed showdog, bred for shows is one of those not particularly suited to work, what would happen to it if its new owner is dissatisfied with the standard of work it is capable of achieving ?
Would this poor dog be sold on yet again ?
I think we have a duty to the dog concerned and to the would be rough shooting dogs prospective owner to be reasonably certain BEFORE he takes the dog on that it really is what he wants and needs.

Bill T.

langhaar

Do you think for one moment I would ask for a home from a guy who doesn't know the implications of what he is asking for. He has owned the breed before and knows that most bloodlines in this breed are not divided into show or work. He requested one that may have been run on for the showring, he is fully aware of the implications of this and of training a young dog with little or no field craft experience. He cannot have a puppy due to commitments. He has a Degree which may give you an indication he has some intelligence.
What was a helpfull intervention on my part is now being turned into a fiasco. There is a good home available that's why I placed his request on this forum. Working versis show is not the issue here, would you rather a vizsla be in rescue rather than with this guy who knows what he's doing?
Come on , get off your high horses , this is becoming ridiculous.
Thanks to such negativity I'll make sure welfare requests or possible good placement homes will not be placed on here again.

windem bang

I in no way slighted either the character or the capabilities of this man who wants a gundog. In the original post no details of this man were given other than that he is a rough shooter and children will be around.
What on earth does having a Degree have to do with someones suitability to have a dog ? I have encountered many people with Degrees, some would make good dog owners or are already good dog owners and some most certainly would not.

This man is suitable to judge by all I have just read and should he take a rescue dog I wish him every success.

My high horse has remained unmounted for quite some time now. I consider my earlier comments to be reasonable given the information previously provided,so you are correct , this is becoming ridiculous.

Bill T.

langhaar

A good home for any dog is one where it is wanted.