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youngshot · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 **Breed:**

hi all,

at a recent car boot sale i attended i came across a dog or pup should i say rather was fully chocolate i took a closer look and to my surprise it looked very wiemeraner like so i asked the owner what type of breed the dog was he replied a weim and i thought to myself even though it had the physical features i thought the nearest other looking breed was a gsp so i put 2 and 2 together and thought further down the line maybe it was a cross as i am inexperienced in the dog world so am trying to create a healthy debate not a slanging match please!

Cheers Dan

tashap · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 688 **Breed:**

dan I think I gave a reply to this on another forum but there is no such thing as a brown weimaraner, you might however have seen a dog with a roe coloured coat which is darker than the usual silver grey and in flat light will give off the appearance of a brownish coloured dog.

youngshot · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 **Breed:**

Hi tasha i know you answered this question in anoter forum but i thought why not get some other ideas i don't know what it was and you didnt say what you thought it could be so i thought this being a hpr forum i would get quite a few good answers

Cheers Dan

Allyson · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

It will not be a weimaraner it will be a weimaraner crossed with something else. there are loads of these being deliberately or accidently bred.

IT is most probably a weimaraner x lab there are lots of these about.

Although there are some GSP x Weims about as well which may be the reason behind the colour.

If you cross a Weimaraner with any other breed you will always end up with darker colour puppies.

In the US they breed Silver Labs, but they are just dilute chocolates, they have no Weimaraner in them.
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youngshot · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 **Breed:**

The Weimaraner is an example of a brown dog with a diluted coat color. This dog is most commonly seen as the short-haired variety on the right, but there is also a long-haired variety shown below. Although Little refered to the Weimaraner as diluted brown, most people call this dog the "grey ghost". Most Weimaraners are b/b at the brown locus and therefore Little was right again! He also referred to them as "d/d" at the dilute locus. Some slate grey dogs resulted from breeding a Weimaraner colored dog to a black dog occur, suggesting this diluter gene is capable of diluting both brown to the Weimaraner pale brown color and black to a slate grey. Little called this color blue in a Great Dane/Pointer crossbred pup.

I got this off a website from the us and if a wiem is the colour of dilute brown couldnt it get darker or is this impossible creating a choc brown the one i saw was not like you had suggested tasha on other forums it had no light to make the dog look brown he was certainly brown i dont know if he was a wiemeraner the owner looked pretty young to me so would have know experience at a guess and this was certainly not a working breed i am looking to you wiem owners to shed any light on theis please.

Cheers Dan

Allyson · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject:

I don't know of anyone in the UK that has ever seen a chocolate Weimaraner with supporting documentation.

You cannot breed a chocolate Weimaraner no matter how dark the parents are if both parents are Weimaraners; it is just not possible.
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youngshot · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 **Breed:**

Now come to think of it it could be a lab cross not sure very average sized pup so would of been hard to tell thanks for answering these questions for me

Cheers Dan

Allyson · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject:

Better than a cross lab! Very Happy

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youngshot · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 **Breed:**

lol

i didnt know what it was when he told me it was a wiem it was quite a shock thinking i only thought they cme in silver or grey and learning of blues and then a choc i thought it will be rainbow color next lol

Cheers Dan

scotty wong · Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject:

i do have a mate with a very old weim and shes getting slightly more ginger in her old age!! but is no where near brown.i did look at a gsp/weim litter they where choclate with awhite chest!

scotty
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