Not particularly worried about having awards removed as I do not believe the KC has a problem with docked dogs , nor do I believe it wishes to make it difficult for people to show docked dogs. Howvrver changes made to rules/regs post AWB and published KC advice are in conflict with each other and that surely cannot be right ??
Having docked my last litter I opted to apply for a permission to show as I noted the change in the F regs, which now has no excemption for docking as an operation which alters the natural conformation of the dog. As it was as clear as mud if I needed permission or not I called the KC and was told NO I did not need permission BUT various dog press writters were making comments about legally docked dogs needed permission to show so I guess they were drawing the same conclusions as myself. I also noted that other exhibitors with legally docked dogs were applying, and being given permissions as published in the kennel gazette. IF permission is NOT required why are the KC processing requests ??
if in doubt apply ...
I do think the KC need to address the conflict between its advice and its own F regs .... every show I enter I sign to say I accept that I am bound by KC rules. Later in the year when I was entering my older docked dogs I also realised the implication of the F regs change for them ... when I enter my older dogs I am technically in breech of those rules as they are docked and I have no permission to show for these dogs !!
Surely all that is needed is for the F regs to have the docking clause re-instated to reflect dogs docked before April 07 and those legally docked after 07 are excempted from requiring permission to show and the F regs and the advice would all match ...
The phrase on the front of the schedule of shows surely is what we go by - "only undocked and legally docked dogs may be exhibited at this show"
All dogs docked prior to the ban were legally docked. I'm not going to request a permission to show for Freckles and Hester. I wonder if anyone will challenge the many natural bobtail Brittanys around? My vet is ready to come over as soon as Belle has her pups next month to give me a certificate for any born with short or bobtails.
The only problems are the shows which charge admission for the general public - I think there are about 6 and our Secretary is sending me a list I think.
Annie _________________ Aberdon HPR's. Good-looking AND Intelligent.
I am not applying for PtS for Pagan or Quba but I note that in this months Kennel Gazette only 2 of my pups are listed as been legally docked, the other 2 haven't appeared and they all applied at the same time _________________ Claire Minstergate Weimaraners
Do you still have to pay a fee if you want to make a complaint about a dog not meeting the rules and regs at a show??? I asked about this once before and was told that someone would have to make a formal complaint and pay a fee, it is then evaluated by someone at the kennel club...
After paying out all that money for a show in the first place not sure how many would 1) want to make the complaint 2) pay the fee _________________ These are my personal opinions and do not represent in any way the views of the WCGB.
It is £35 to put a complaint in & you can either do it at a show by going to the secretary or you can ask a breed club for its support. _________________ Claire Minstergate Weimaraners
I am not applying for PtS for Pagan or Quba but I note that in this months Kennel Gazette only 2 of my pups are listed as been legally docked, the other 2 haven't appeared and they all applied at the same time
Hi Weima .. I had to chase up the PTS for the pup I had returned. I sent 2 letters one in May & one in June, the lady who does the PTS said she hand't recieved the letters After a thrid attempt I have my PTS.
Not applying for the older girls but the rules, the statements on the front of shedules and the published advice are a contradictory mess and should be brought in line. JMHO
Tashap .. yes if you wish to make a complaint at a show you need to pay £35.00 however from the press statements (see Mikes post) it is clear the KC will not take action, only refer the complainant to the relevant authorities..
I sent off a letter to KC asking for permission to show Wookie at the same time as adding my affix to her name and have heard back today saying they need a letter from the vet so much for them not having a problem with the showing of docked dogs.
Did anyone else have to send 'proof' from what I have read I took it that you dident.
I do wonder if the KC dident bother to check their records and wonder if I am asking about a older dog suppose I will have to get onto phone nest week and try and sort it
Also my mistake I registared her in joint names me and my hisband and the affix is in my name so I need to registar her in my name only so another £12 to do that and then add the affix, they have told me to fill in the change of ownership on her registration form(which I sent to them and they dident send back ) just aswell she isent old enough to do anything till January
Caz _________________ NOB'S do it in the field!!!!!!!!!
there is info published in this months Kennel Gazette re showing of docked dogs.
The rules have been published re shows with entrance fees etc PLUS the The KC have now actually published a statement to the effect that a anyone who wishes to show a legally docked dog must apply for permission to show. The owner must write to the KC and submit a copy of the legal docking certificate or in the case of an older dog, who has required amputation due to injury, a vet letter.
When I applied for my pups I did enclose copies of the docking certificate
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suppose I will have to get onto phone nest week and try and sort it 
) just aswell she isent old enough to do anything till January