What a good idea Here I am trying to keep my head down and my introductory post is becoming the centre of attention but then I realised that Langhaar and Munstyman started the road to ruin
But then again why did the German's allow solid blacks in GSP's but not GWP's and I'm presumining GLP's (Brenda?)
I presume solid black hunting dogs couldn't be seen by hawks, that's why brown was favoured.As for solid GSP's, black was only allowed in the DK stud books several years after their standard was written, then only because of pressure from black owners according to conversations with A G who also tells me the German's don't like all black dogs. I only have Georgina Bryne who says it would be highly unlikely for an all black to be awarded a Kurzhaar Sieger as their judges don't like this colour.She knew of only one all black dog who was given a v for conformation in the 80's.It may be tolerated in DK's but is certainly not encouraged.
I tend to think that some of this has more to do with human fads and fancies rather than with anything that would badly effect the dogs either for work or show. I can certainly agree with Kiwi that I would not want a predominantly white dog for deer stalking or for goose shooting. It would simply be a case of picking a darker pup from a litter or going to another litter to avoid that problem.
I'm not so sure about the wide running being a big no-no , I've always found it easier to pull a wide runner in than to push a close hunter out.
Where black G.S.P.'s are concerned , when they first began to appear in this country my main objection to them was their price !!! I was told the breeders were charging up to double for a black dog. Since the blacks did not work any better than any other colour I felt no urge to buy one.
I've never seen a tri - colour wirehair but if that were my breed I would have no objection to owning one. Again the prejudice against the colour or markings seems to be a show based thing since no one is suggesting they do not work as well as the "normally" coloured dogs.
An interesting subject but perhaps more interesting for its insights into how people think than on how a dog might work.
Dont know how I missed the start of this discussion but I did not sure which pictures the first post is refering too perhaps I have missed them somehow.
Anyway as Sharon has said I have a white one(picture to follow when I sort pc out) I had liked the ones I had seen in books and when I found out Paul Robinson was bring in a bitch in welp I asked if I could have a white one if there was one avaliable. As has been said before there is no bad colour for a working dog and for what I do (picking up) he is easy to spot(Rumour can be on point and I have a job to see her) I have been concertrating on working her this year but he has been out also and has done 8 full seasons before.
He has the best coat of any wirehair I have owned very thick with a dence undercoat(you cant find his skin this time of year) although he does require stripping that dosent suit all. He also has a good dark eye. He had alot of sucess in the show ring in his younger days and won 1 cc, although in this country the colour isent liked by many which is propley why you dont see many. There have been a few others shown but with not great sucess which is propley why they havent taken off.
He isent the best working dog I have ever had but is more than capable of doing what I need.
Caz _________________ NOB'S do it in the field!!!!!!!!!
An interesting subject but perhaps more interesting for its insights into how people think than on how a dog might work.
I read somewhere recently that black colouration has been shown to offer a metabolic advantage to dogs. IIRC it is the sled dog fraternity that have noticed this phenomena.
I appreciate this is a bit like the vague news.... _________________ Fi 1 year old Weimaraner
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I presume solid black hunting dogs couldn't be seen by hawks, that's why brown was favoured.As for solid GSP's, black was only allowed in the DK stud books several years after their standard was written, then only because of pressure from black owners according to conversations with A G who also tells me the German's don't like all black dogs. I only have Georgina Bryne who says it would be highly unlikely for an all black to be awarded a Kurzhaar Sieger as their judges don't like this colour.She knew of only one all black dog who was given a v for conformation in the 80's.It may be tolerated in DK's but is certainly not encouraged.
That would make sense. I know the Germans are very particular about the percentage of b/w to l/w puppies being born each year and although I don't think there is any ruling in force but it's seems to be an unspoken ruling not to breed too many b/w's.
I know from my b/w dog that on occasions I cannot see him very clearly but still cannot see why tri-colours aren't allowed _________________ Sharon Pinkerton
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Wonder why it was thought black would not show up well to hawks ? Black is a very good colour as a silhouette , to my eyesight far more easily distinguished than any grey or brown tone against the majority of backgrounds. To a hawks eyesight it must stick out like a sore thumb !!!
Not many prey creatures in nature are coloured black.
Found your dictionary have you Annie _________________ Jan
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Here I am trying to keep my head down and my introductory post is becoming the centre of attention 
but then I realised that Langhaar and Munstyman started the road to ruin 
