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chiendog
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windem bang
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3304 Location: central scotland
Breed: g.s.p. - brit.- labs. - cocker
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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O.K. I'll bite! This is preaching to the converted. I rather suspect most dog owners can see right through the K.C. attitudes. It hasn't been about the dogs for a very long time - if it ever was !!!
I do think it is wrong that the K.C. runs a monopoly on our dogs. People are wanting to make money and if the monopoly is working in your favour and making you money or is in some way increasing your prestige then you will stick with it.
No K.C. that really cared about dogs would allow the registration of some of the poor mis-shaped dog breeds that are all too common. We are demanding that dogs have certain health checks before being bred from but turning a blind eye to the plight of several entire breeds of dogs that have deliberate physical faults bred into them as part of their "breed standard" their conformation !!! The K.C. goes along with this because it boosts someones wage packet within that organisation.
Any one who has read my past posts knows I am not really a "breed" person. There are many breeds I like and many crossbreeds I would like to try for gundog work. If I were to find a crossbreed that was disgustingly healthy on all counts and which was was capable of beating all opposition when worked and which could breed its like - would the K.C. welcome it with open arms ??? No it would not. It would stick with the same breeds calling them purebreds and turning a blind eye to the absolute fact that they were ALL crossbreds at one time!
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Ghilliegumdrop Events Coordinator

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1322 Location: Herts
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Most within the last 100 years  _________________ Jan
Ghillie [the Gumdrop] and Merlin [the Demon from Hell] My opinions are brilliant, intelligent [sometimes] and MINE alone! If you want one I can give it to you. |
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JR VIZ
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 87 Location: EAST SUSSEX
Breed: HUNGARIAN WIREHAIRED VIZSLA'S
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| windem bang wrote: | O.K. I'll bite! This is preaching to the converted. I rather suspect most dog owners can see right through the K.C. attitudes. It hasn't been about the dogs for a very long time - if it ever was !!!
I do think it is wrong that the K.C. runs a monopoly on our dogs. People are wanting to make money and if the monopoly is working in your favour and making you money or is in some way increasing your prestige then you will stick with it.
No K.C. that really cared about dogs would allow the registration of some of the poor mis-shaped dog breeds that are all too common. We are demanding that dogs have certain health checks before being bred from but turning a blind eye to the plight of several entire breeds of dogs that have deliberate physical faults bred into them as part of their "breed standard" their conformation !!! The K.C. goes along with this because it boosts someones wage packet within that organisation.
Any one who has read my past posts knows I am not really a "breed" person. There are many breeds I like and many crossbreeds I would like to try for gundog work. If I were to find a crossbreed that was disgustingly healthy on all counts and which was was capable of beating all opposition when worked and which could breed its like - would the K.C. welcome it with open arms ??? No it would not. It would stick with the same breeds calling them purebreds and turning a blind eye to the absolute fact that they were ALL crossbreds at one time!
Bill T. |
Well said!! but also the breeder has to take some responcability for what they are doing. Alot of the big name breeders don't get on with other breeders. Hense this only closes down the gene pool, they don't like giving any one a sniff of what they have, they say they are protecting THEIR breed lines (who did they get them from ?)
If only they could get thier noise out of the clouds and tried to get along the gene pools would be alot bigger and alot healthier. _________________ Don't listen to the voices |
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Finncally

Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Moray
Breed: GSPs, Border Terriers
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,
Just wasted the morning reading through most of this site
As someone who dislikes the sophistry, bad syllogism and fadism of modern dog people, Iv'e found an opinionated, reactional, gainsayer, so familiar I'm going to ask my mother if she gave any of her children up for adoption.
Marvelous, thanks for pointing me to that site Chiendog
(and its about Terriers as well.........) |
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BritAnnie

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1782 Location: Central Scotland
Breed: Brittany, GWP
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | sophistry, bad syllogism and fadism |
Duh??? _________________ Aberdon HPR's. Good-looking AND Intelligent.
www.aberdon.org.uk
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windem bang
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 3304 Location: central scotland
Breed: g.s.p. - brit.- labs. - cocker
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Double Duh Must get a dickshaunery one of these days!
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BritAnnie

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1782 Location: Central Scotland
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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My we have clever people on here
Sophistry in MS Word means literalism, which in turn means pedantry, laboriousness and/or lack of imagination.
Syllogism - a form of argument used in logic in which a conclusion is drawn from two propositions, or premises.
I regret 'fadism' was not found in the Encarta dictionary, was it meant to be faddism? - the existence of or participation in briefly popular fashions
Any wiser Bill?  _________________ Aberdon HPR's. Good-looking AND Intelligent.
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newbie

Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 102 Location: scotland
Breed: GWP, WEIMARANER and POINTERS
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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don't know about Bill but its as clear as mud to me lol  |
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langhaar

Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 451 Location: Oxon
Breed: GLP HV
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| Do they always write like this in Morayshire, if so could someone translate because I'm bu..ered if I know what fincally is talking about. Must be a head down too many holes. |
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