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cressy · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

Having introduced my elderly (oops don't let him read this Laughing

) Brittany to beating this year I can certainly see where people feel it is not the right place for an HPR. Mugi was a city pet for 10 yrs and this is absolutely ideal for him, he gets out hunting aged 11 yrs, he is biddable and loves it - especially the partridge drives. If the wind is right and we are short of beaters he gets a good run, if the wind is right but we have enough beaters I have to handle him lots to keep him close and if the wind is wrong we have a nice bimble on lead Laughing

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I will not be taking my youngster on the beating line at all, his hunting pattern is too wide already (although he responds to me well), and he would find the environment too frustrating.

Picking up, well maybe - Mugi will be allowed to pick-up this next season if he improves his retrieve a little. Chase may get the odd day if and when he proves he could cope and if I can't find a way to get him working more naturally.
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Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject:

Well I have worked both a GWP and Brittany in the beating line and picking up without problems, apart from the odd hare that decided to pop up as a distraction now and then. Possibly because my dogs were usually the only ones working at the time, on this shoot, they seemed to be able to switch from beating to picking up and vise versa. Certainly if Jaffa [GWP] ever said something was there then there was something there and the rest of the gang soon realised that. Ghillie very rarely misses anything and tends to work well within sight in the woods but ranges further out when on the fields [now and again she disappears into the next farm but is usually back within minutes] Most years I get a call asking if she can come on the shoot and, by the way, you better come as well Exclamation

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Rhimad · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject:

Where we go beating, because we know the Head Keeper we are given our own drives to beat, no spaniels or labs just our four GWP's and a Brittney. These beats are open ground or low cover either stubble or game crop etc. The problem with working a hpr in a beating line with spaniels, spaniels dont appreciate that Hpr's point and will often flush the game from under the hpr's nose. Some spaniel owners dont seem to understand how and hpr works and will often let their spaniel steal the flush. If you are on a shoot that is all hprs or spaniel owners that understand how an hpr works then it could all work fine.

You could end up with a hpr that wont hold a point or will point then flush straight away or even start pegging birds.

We had a brittney come to us for training, she would peg birds or point then flush really quick because she had been working alongside spaniels, whose owners didnt think much for hprs anyway Rolling Eyes

. It took a lot of hard work to steady her down again, she will now hold a point and back our gwps.

Also there are drives which arent suitable for hprs as they are to dense in cover, you wouldnt never see them on point which could again teach them to flush without holding a point or peg birds, or worse stop them pointing all together Crying or Very sad

If you dont have the option of picking and choosing where you work your hpr then you have to make the best of what you have got and adapt your training accordingly.............I am just spoilt Laughing

and can pick and choose.

Best place for the HPR is up on a grouse moor, I love to watch ours work on grouse, it brings a tear to the eye Laughing

Especially when you have dam, sire and offspring all backing each other Laughing

that was a sight and Helen had left the camera in her car Rolling Eyes

sashalgwps · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject:

We are very looking on the shoot that we go. As Sharon said we have a keeper who appreciates the HPR way of working. We are also very fortunate in that the dogs are almost entirely made up of HPRs - GWPs, Vizslas, GSPs mainly.

We have had some great sights seeing the dogs of various breeds backing each other up on point.

I have many happy memories of our Boogie and her 'Vizsla boyfriends' working and then all being on point together.

Alex

elptb · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:

I forgot to mention that the brilliant, awesome, fantastic, and ever so good at his job, keeper on the shoot I go to has a HWV which will be in the beating line!
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