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countrygirl



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer very interesting both of my wires are docked and I wouldent want an undocked one but thats becasue I like the look, very few gwp/gsp are about at the moment undocked but I am sure this number will increse in time as the new law takes hold and people find it harder to get their litters docked and dont even start me on the stupid law regarding showing docked dogs. Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the laws will affect terriers aswell,mind my pup was left undocked because the lads who were involved in breeding the litter wanted them undocked.it had nothing to do with the docking laws. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got any pics of your terrier showing what his/her tail is like?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all my terriers have been docked,the new gwp pup is the only undocked dog ive ever owned which is usually docked.
sorry for the confusion,i only mentioned terriers because i see that some owners are not docking litters now
i kept plummer terriers for a decade and ive seen a few undocked pups on other forums lately.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plummer?  Don't know them, but on googling I see they are another composite breed. http://www.plummerterrier.com/dogbox/portal.php?page=2

I know some of these terriers aren't recognised by the KC but I do like the Patterdales.  I met them first in 1983 on the Dunalastair Estate and just loved them.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the plummer is no longer the working type it once was.there might be a few people hunting rats with them but most owners care more about the showing side and the desire to gain kc recognition.i wouldnt know where to get a working bred plummer terrier pup these days.

the terriers in my pics are half cross plummer/nuttall(patterdale) terriers.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think they really looked like terriers on that website - more like lurchers.  And if the KC is refusing to register the Lurcher as a breed I see little hope for teh Plummer.  The KC are quite protective of the registered breeds as they are, so aren't keen on crossbreeds until they breed true to type.  I think the criteria is 4 generations but I'm not sure. Anybody know?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could go on and on about the plummer because i spent so long working them to rat,rabbit and fox.
however most breeders care more about looks now rather than work.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pity Dr Plummer died young as he might have managed to get them established without the breed becoming show only.   Found some pictures - but how did the first three on there become Supreme Champions - and what of?
http://www.plummerterrierassociation.org/STUD.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never had registered terriers or joined the various clubs so i had no interest in the showing side.i imagine those dogs became champions by winning big game fair shows like the midland.it is taken very seriously. Rolling Eyes

im still very bitter over whats happened to the plummer terrier type.


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