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Helen S · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:

Hi Maxine,

I don't believe you were criticized for your dogs or where they came from. What was questioned originally was how relevant the German testing system is for dogs being worked under UK rules and conditions. I don't think anyone disputes that the German system is good and more complete than the UK one, just that some aspects of the German system are clearly out of step with practices in the UK.

I will leave it at that, I have no wish to be drawn into an arguement.

Helen S

josie · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:13 am Post subject:

I've just valiantly tried to read this entire thread in order to understand how things have developed here. However, I barely made it past page 5.

I've always thought that, in terms of achievements in any area, actions speak louder than words.

It seems to me that many people on this thread know each other from other forums or have history which is affecting the way they relate to each other here. It also seems that things are being said by PMs which are then affecting the way people relate to each other in this thread.

Please debate issues and not personalities or things become very tense and tedious at the same time. Please be POLITE when addressing these issues and respect that others may not have the same opinion as you. This does not mean they are Nasty People, just that they do not have the same opinion as you!

Please do not mention things you have been told by PM or email in public on the forum. If someone sends a PM, they have chosen to do so because they don't want what they are saying to be publicised. It defeats the point of having PMs if people are going to worry that their PMs will be made public if they send them! Anything told to admins/moderators by PM is confidential and will only be shared with other admins/moderators if it concerns the running of the forum. If you are having an argument with someone by PM and you are also posting to them on a public thread, please do not let the animosity of your private argument spill over into the public thread. If you feel you are being harassed by PM, please let admins know and do not respond to the harassment with harassment of your own back (or you then become implicated yourself).

On attempting to re-read this thread, it does not appear to me, as an outsider to the GWP world and deliberately bringing no prior knowledge of anything to this, that the way things have escalated can be blamed on any one person/kennel. In fact, there are numerous points where people have overstepped the mark with what they have posted and this is true of almost everyone who has been involved in the argument here.

For future reference, please know that, if necessary, we are prepared to warn and ban people. Healthy debate and differences of opinion are a welcome part of this forum. We certainly don't want everyone to agree with everyone else to maintain status quo - that would just be boring. We do err much more on the side of freedom of speech than many other forums. However, with this comes more responsibility on the part of members to consider the way in which they choose to disagree and to try to keep things civil and respectful at all times.
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