Des, if that was Nicholas, he's Grey's breeder - she came from Ireland. Yes, they originally wanted them to be wirehaired Weims and actually called them that for a while, but then the German Weim club protested and they became their own breed. _________________ Slate and Grey
Yes, in the photographs they do look bigger than the GSP. They are beautiful dogs. Are there any in the UK? Must do some reading on them. Have to say Im still absolutely in love with the SRHP and its nice to see "part" of their makeup.
Annie Brac _________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs!!!
Yes there is a Cesky here in the UK as I went to see him and his new owners back in the Summer. In fact I'm still trying to finish an article on the breed for Dog World.
He was brought over by his breeder and they spent a week with the yearling dog in his new home to help him settle in. He was very similar in size and build to the GWP I took with me but they are much shorter bodied than the GWP. They were also very laid back in temperament in comparision to the GWP both in the house and out on a run. _________________ Sharon Pinkerton
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: Cesky Fousek (Bohemian Wirehaired Pointing Griffon)
Bareve wrote:
Yes there is a Cesky here in the UK as I went to see him and his new owners back in the Summer. In fact I'm still trying to finish an article on the breed for Dog World.
He was brought over by his breeder and they spent a week with the yearling dog in his new home to help him settle in. He was very similar in size and build to the GWP I took with me but they are much shorter bodied than the GWP. They were also very laid back in temperament in comparision to the GWP both in the house and out on a run.
Hello Sharon,
I live in Toronto, Canada. The cesky is a remarkable dog that is bred not to be aggressive but confident, built as long as the are tall, lowest hip displasia out of any working breed ( below 2.7% ) and loyal to the bone in or out of the field with a unique ability to adapt to any terrain or game. They are also fathers to all Wirehairs dating back to the 13th century.
I am a breeder and have researched the Cesky Fousek thoroughly and all I say is documented proof.
Anyone can check out my website ceskyfousekcanada.com and read more history on this remarkable noble and old breed that continues to get better through thick or thin because of dedicated Czech breeders and sportsmen.
There build, personality, three coat system, easy train ability, eagerness to please and love for there family is unmatched.
His laid back attitude at home and all business in the field with balance of brains over desire comes from selective genetic breeding of qualities that the Czech Breeders and Sportsmen desired.
This all started some 15,000 years ago with domesticating Wolf's and Dingo's for our use to meet our needs.
The Cesky was created out in the open but controlled through proper breeding and knowledge of genetics.
Other Wire breeds have lost there path because they lacked communication and let there ego's get in the way.
Leave politics for the politicians and out of dog breeding.
best regards, _________________ Ancient Kennel
Armando
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didn't the cesky die out to the point the drahthaar saved it from total extinction...........they are a nice breed we have some nice ones in nz.
The Cesky Fousek was nearly decimated in WW1 and was brought back from near extinction by using ( Korthals Griffon, Drathaar, Sticklehaar and Kurtzhaar). All genetically linked dogs that have Cesky blood in them because the Cesky was the first wirehair dating back to the 13th century.
The Sticklehaar is now infusing Cesky blood because they only have 3 existing lines. Not enough to create genetic diversity. The WPGCA in the United States is also using Cesky blood to bring the griffon back to what Korthal had originally created but not finished before his death. The Germans are also re-registering Cesky Fousek as Drathaars and breeding into there lines to remove the Drathaars aggressive behaviour.
There is nothing wrong with improving bloodlines through proper genetic infusion of new blood as long as the individuals are qualified in proper breeding, genetics and know what they want as a finished product.
Lets face it. All dogs were created this way.
Mandatory genetic testing of all litters before they are registered ( which is now very cost effective ) would stop backdoor secret breeding of so-called BLUE BLOODS.
For that we go back to the Wolfs and Dingos where man was simple and money and ego's did not control them. It was for survival and food.
P.S they are beautiful and highly intelligent. "A Total Package"
best regards, _________________ Ancient Kennel
Armando
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thought the pudel pointer had the award for lowest hip scores
Are they below 2.7% like the Cesky Fousek? What the Pudel Pointer has is a very inconsistent coat which is a problem but a very nice dog for the foot hunter. I rather like them when they have nice coats.
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