Sharon, where do you think the "laid back" bit of the Ceskys' make up came from ?
Bill T.
Through discipline, genetic knowledge, dedication and 700 years of selective breeding Bill. Hyper dogs waste energy, hard to handle and just plain old bad breeding. _________________ Ancient Kennel
Armando
It is easy to tell that you are passionate about your breed. I.M.O. any gundog breed which has low aggression levels is just great.
Can't agree totally about the "hyper dogs" part of your post. Hyper dogs have passion too ,they love their sport and they work hard at it. I.M.O. a good hunting dog is "laid back" around the house but is ready to tear the landscape apart once it gets outside. Personally I wouldn't want too much "laidbackness."
Bill T. _________________ Breed for the best - train for the rest.
It is easy to tell that you are passionate about your breed. I.M.O. any gundog breed which has low aggression levels is just great.
Can't agree totally about the "hyper dogs" part of your post. Hyper dogs have passion too ,they love their sport and they work hard at it. I.M.O. a good hunting dog is "laid back" around the house but is ready to tear the landscape apart once it gets outside. Personally I wouldn't want too much "laidbackness."
Bill T.
Hello Bill,
I should rephrase the statement some what. I like pep in the field. I can best describe it like the fellow at work who runs back and fourth like a mad man and accomplishes little because he tried to accomplish to much. Wild birds do not handle well with wild dogs.
It's all about balance and the Cesky Fousek display's it very well because it has been genetically bred to make him truly a gentleman's hunting buddy which allows fellows like you and I to admire them fully in the field and enjoy the dog work. The Czech breeders stayed true to this coarse. The Cesky is a beautiful site to behold afield or out. He or she handles there game like a kid enjoying ice cream for the first time,
P.S Scotland is my ultimate destination for a bird hunt. I am envious of what you have at your back door and how Scots treat a hunt day. _________________ Ancient Kennel
Armando
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: cesky fouseks in the UK
I know that it's been 3 years since the thread started - I had always been interested in the CF, but had never found anyone in the UK with any knowledge of the breed - does anyone know of any breeders who might have pups in the next few years?
I appreciate that the GWP is very similar, and inded have spend a long time researching the breed - but I do find that there's something about the idea of a CF that I just like!
There is someone down in the south with a CF as I went to see them about 18 months ago and spent a day with them and his breeder who had come over from Holland. I will look back through my emails later tonight and find their email details.
They were very knowledgeable about the breed and the breeder spoke excellent English and also knew a great deal about the breed. Interesting breed - seem to be much quieter in nature than the wirehairs but not that disimilar in looks _________________ Sharon Pinkerton
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thanks for any help - I've found Canadian, Dutch, NZ and Czech sites but nothing to far in the uk.
I'm not in a hurry - I want to wait until my youngest is at least 4 (another 1 1/2 years) before getting a big dog, but with something like this I think the longer I have the better!
I doubt that I'll be able to go down the import route but if anyone does plan d be on breeding over here I'd be very interested
I see that when the cesky fousek was dying out in the 1920's they mated them with the GWP(DD) and the breed picked up does this make them pure bred or a cross?looking at them I can't tell the difference.and if this is the case the breed can't be as old as they claim.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: comparing Ceskys and GWP
I started a thread here http://germanwirehairedpointer.co.uk/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1257331102/0 asking for people's opinions of GWPs as gamily pets- in light of what people have posted about the difference in character between the two breeds, do the concerns that I raised there apply equally to the CF?
I see that when the cesky fousek was dying out in the 1920's they mated them with the GWP(DD) and the breed picked up does this make them pure bred or a cross?looking at them I can't tell the difference.and if this is the case the breed can't be as old as they claim.
Since just about all breeds were originally crossbreeds why should it matter now if a bit of G.W.P. was tossed into the pot ?
If the dogs work well and have a consistently good temperament then the breeders have done their jobs.
I wouldn't be making claims for great antiquity for any breed .
Bill T. _________________ Breed for the best - train for the rest.
I see that when the cesky fousek was dying out in the 1920's they mated them with the GWP(DD) and the breed picked up does this make them pure bred or a cross?looking at them I can't tell the difference.and if this is the case the breed can't be as old as they claim.
Since just about all breeds were originally crossbreeds why should it matter now if a bit of G.W.P. was tossed into the pot ?
If the dogs work well and have a consistently good temperament then the breeders have done their jobs.
I wouldn't be making claims for great antiquity for any breed .
Bill T.
True words spoken by a man who understands dog breeding. Anyone who wishes a true blood might as well put themselves on the list for a Dingo or a wolf.
Truth be known very little Germanwirehair was put in. One Pudelpointer Specimen who's genetics were later erased from the gene pool because it proved no value for the Cesky and its future. The Griffon was also used all with open doors under the watchful eyes of Genetics experts, breeders and sporstmen. Three coat system, highly intelligent, CO-OPERATIVE, working for you, balance of brains and nose and early developing. Built to run all day with compact spoon feet, length equals height and strong neck.
Any more information required check out my website ceskyfousekcanada.com and read some of my articles and proof of history dating back to the 13th century. All documented.
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