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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes please Hana, also can you find anything out about Wirehaired Weimaraners? I believe they are recognised in the Czech republic but not sure, I hadn't even heard of them before yesterday!! Laughing

Have created a Sticky for Cesky fousek pics and info.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike,
did you mean Slovak wirehaired pointer/Slovensky hrubosrsty stavac? I will post pictures of those in the sticky. And more about them as well. Have not got time to write it down right now. But I will do it. I promise.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure Hana! I was looking through a Weimaraner book last night and they were mentioned there. I will have a closer look tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They could be mention there but they are not existing FCI breed as far as I know the Slovenska hrubosrsty stavac was bred partly from them.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did excist in Czech for example, but I have never ever seen a photo of a wirehaired Weimaraner. The SRP is a different breed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No such thing as a wire haired Weimaraner, (according to several of the doyennes of the breed in the UK); there is shorthair, longhair and what they call "stockhaar" which is an incorrect coat.

What was originally thought of as a WHW is in reality a SRHP.

They vary from looking hardly different from a Weim, to very shaggy indeed. One of the reasons I did not have one when offered one, as there are so many "varieties". Wink

I know someone who is planning to do Working Trials with one and another who is planning to compete in Obedience.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allyson wrote:
No such thing as a wire haired Weimaraner, (according to several of the doyennes of the breed in the UK);


In Gillian Burgoin's book, The Guide To The Weimaraner (the Bible) on page 135 'The Weimaraner in Czechoslovakia', there is a picture of a wire-haired Weimaraner. The caption to the picture is "From Chechoslovakia comes this rare wire-haired Weimaraner owned by Josef Kalny........"
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats where I saw it Weima, I was suprised to see the caption go on to say that the dog won 1st prize for sharpness on cats Shocked and I then read on and find out that the Germans have a test for sharpness on humans Shocked I knew German dogs were supposed to be sharp but I didn't realise that meant delibrately sharp towards people!!

Interestingly she goes on to say that the Czechoslovakian Weimaraner Club recognised the wirehair Weims and tried to get the German club to recognise them. They refused and she also goes on to say that they think there is pudel-pointer blood in the wirehair.

I can see were you are coming from Allyson but looking at the picture in Gillians book it doesn't look much like a SRHP, but then again who knows!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone scan this picture in so we can see it?!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not an expert on W. Wink But please trust me on this one. I am sure of it. As I said yesterday, there are not WHW the dogs looking like one are SRHP.
I read the pages of Czech W club yesterday and it says they were trying to get the WHW to be recognized as a kind of W, the german club did not agree, but they were willing to recognize them as a separate breed and that is how the SRHP/Slovensky hrubosrsty stavac start to exist. The SRHP history says the same.

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