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pastel

I've just returned from Germany after taking my bitch to a stud dog and I am so impressed with the strict rules in germany for a stud dog and bitches who are allowed to breed out there, apparently they are the strictest in Europe....... all dogs male or female have to do tests for HPR abiliites, they also have to do be shown and marked on conformation, they also have to do tests for their temperament, All dogs must be hip and eye tested any problems and they are not allowed to breed in germany.
I do think it was worth the 1300 miles and 26 hrs of driving!! lets hope she is in pup!

Mike · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

Good luck! That is a lot of effort you have gone to, would you mind telling me which stud dog you used? You may PM me if you like.
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terrier · Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 49 **Breed:**

Should it be like that in the UK?,I certainly think so.It would get rid of a lot of the puppy peddlars for sure.

lagopuslagopus · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject:

It must depend on the breed of dog then because they don't do eye testing on Munsterlanders over there.

countrygirl · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:

It will never happen in this country Rolling Eyes

Do they not have any cross-breed dogs in Gremany? I can understand it happening with registared dogs but surely there must be dogs breed outside the system who are not shown or worked?

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guy · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject:

The system works because the breed clubs holdcontrol of the breed. No KC equivalent for them. I am not sure the system is watertight as the 'breed master' is a person and we all know how easy it is for a 'person' to be fallible. But testing for work abilities coupled with assesment for confirmation must be better than just judging pretty dogs.
It won't happen here.
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lou · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject:

The Germans are pretty strict with horses too aren't they?
What baffles me is how manky the German, German Shepherds are. what a state. you know - until Crufts 2008 I assumed that the hump backed GSD's were the result of terrible British backyard breeding - but no - they are show dogs!! Shocked

even a German bred one got best of breed! How can a Country so strict with its breeding programs make such a mess of what is essentially a very basic, traditional looking dog?

Louise

wildman · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:05 am Post subject:

Good Point and it is (I believe) the most popular dog in its home country.
There are good and bad dogs everywhere and whilst we don't have a 'formal' testing/breeding programme for our dogs, a little investigation on the part of the prospective purchaser of a pup can go a long way.

Ask to see the parents relevant health tests.
Ask about the parents working history SPT, FT, WT results etc.
Plan ahead go and see the prospective sire and dam working.
Ask what the breeders rationale is behind that particular mating.
Observe the sire and dams temperaments particularly around other dogs.
Look at previous progeny if possible.

These are all basic questions I would be asking, and whilst positive answers will not guarantee a good pup, neither will an all singing/dancing testing system.
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pastel · Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject:

Apparently , the Weimaraner club in germany has the strictest rules than any other breed and also in Europe, I was told that the German shepard over there are very lenient compared to Weims so bad examples could be the breed club and breed masters?

kiwi · Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: