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Location: north wales

Breed: Large Munsterlander

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do they do their training Brenda?
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Location: Oxon

Breed: GLP HV

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their last one was in Gloucestershire and will be organising another at the end of this month, where I don't know yet. It is the Bavarian Mountain Hound Society of GB. As a new club it is building up a core of dedicated owners who wish to learn the skill of blood tracking. If there are  HPR owners who are interested in a demonstration/ tuition just let me know.
I have no hesitation in doing this with our own dogs who have, still are or going to field trial. Teaching tracking does not interfere with bird work.
What you do need is a good dog who has the will to find game and has a good nose whatever discipline is being taught. Here I go preaching again-
Amen!
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Pete's " Shrew "
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Location: Lincolnshire

Breed: large munsterlanders

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brenda, as you now have more indepth info on tracking Cool I'd love to have your comments on the tracking part of our nat apt. The following is the description we give explaining what the tests are about. This is aimed at the innocent Laughing untrained youngster



TRACKING or NOSE WORK
This is to test your dog’s ability to track and find wounded game.
A scent trail is laid by dragging some dead game (cut open) along the ground or spraying the ground with
diluted blood. Your dog must follow the path of the trail with reasonable accuracy with its head close to the
ground. You may assist and encourage the dog onto the trail initially and correct the dog if it strays but most of the initiative must come from the dog and it must show an ability and interest to track for itself. There is a retrieve at the end of the trail for your dog to find and retrieve if it wants, but this is not part of the test.
Your dog will not pass if it cannot locate the trail, continually loses the trail or shows little interest in tracking.
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Breed: GLP HV

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have passed on your request to Pete Garraway as it's a case of not going to the monkey but the organ grinder.

Did write in the GLP breed notes the LMC was the only Club to support tracking in HPR's and all credit to you.
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Breed: large munsterlanders

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the mention. Your breed notes are usually the first I read. However I've hardly had time to open the dog press - its a bit hectic trying to wear the FT sec hat along with the Treasurers Hat as well as the Odds and Sods hat Rolling Eyes

By the way if anyone can volunteer to help steward, dummie throw, take refreshments round , etc etc at Hall Barn I will be eternally greatful Wink  Wink  Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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United Bloodtrackers Club US has an aptitude test Lynn
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BMH Society have now completed a Natural Ability Tracking Test . This has not yet been given final approval by their committee. The aim of this test is to promote tracking instincts in their Bavarians and also HPR breeds. It is hoped a certificate of successfull completion will be awarded but this is not an indication those that pass are " trained " tracking dogs.

A day for this test for HPR's will hopefully be arranged in September.

Their Sschweisshunde Level 1 and 2 Tests are also at their final committee stage.

The British Deer Society and BASC are willing to promote a register of trained dogs who can be called out for deer management and by the police if a deer has been injured following a RTA. Only those dogs who pass a 1000m trail laid 72 hours previously will be accepted as " trained ".

These tests will be based on the JGHV sschweisshunde prufungs

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This booklet is available from the JGHV.

Drucherei Hesse  hassdruck@t-online.de

For those UK owners with VDH registered dogs who are wishing to enter JGHV prufungs a test of 400 m will be included in the BMHS programme.

It is hoped a HPR representative will be approved and co-opted onto their tracking committee.

Any one wishing further information please e-mail
brenda-arany@tiscali.co.uk
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Location: Scottish Borders

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you have your facts right?

How much blood do they plan to use on a 1000m track 72hrs old?

This is a ridiculous standard to pursue using 250cl (the ammount of blood loss generally accepted for a Roe Deer to go into shock and a normal volume for blood tracks).
In fact I would go so far to say that there won't be many 'trained' dogs on their register.

What about lose tracking and reporting?
This has much more merit in a practical sense than following a dog in a 10m line. In reality most UK deer are shot (and lost/wounded) in upland commercial forests, predominately Sitka Spruce, where trying to follow your dog in a 10m line is pretty much useless.
Also what happens if the deer is actively mobile and requires aprehension?

There is a world of difference from following artificialy laid tracks and pursuit of the real thing. Whilst training and testing has much to commend it, setting a 1000m/72hr track as a standard is ridiculous and bares little semblance to reality.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure any input to the BMHS  would be greatly appreciated.

Their secretary did send me an e-mail asking if your kennel would be interested in contributing both positive and negative opinions of their testing requirements. I would be happy to provide his number if you could e-mail.



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