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KC initiatiev - at last?
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caithness hunter



Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Breed: GSP, JRT.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BritAnnie wrote:
What a bunch of wet blankets!!!  Rolling Eyes  Here we have Kennel Club that is at last trying to put things right and what do they get - more criticism and hassle.  Is it not time to stand up and say - OK we'll forget the past and see what happens in the future.  Some POSITIVE thinking for a change!

I wish I hadn't bothered posting this on here now.


Annie, i feel you are a little over sensitive (maybe you would rather i had no opinion?) i am not against the idea as long as there is something taken from it, change is not a dirty word as long as it is for the right reasons  Wink
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caithness hunter



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Breed: GSP, JRT.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps you could explain what you hope the outcome of these judges attending trials would be?
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magyar viz



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Location: Lincolnshire

Breed: vizsla

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less cake & biscuits for everyone else
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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Location: Liverpool

Breed: ESS, Brit x2

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not against it, but I'll take some convincing that it will make a difference.  It would be much more fun if we could have all gundogs in a show lined up off the lead at the start of the day, have a shotgun fired behind them and only judge those that the handlers can catch and get into the ring Laughing Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil

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I wish I hadn't bothered posting this on here now

Come on Annie, you've got people talking and that's whet forums are about, isn't it?
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BritAnnie



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: Central Scotland

Breed: Brittany, GWP

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caithness hunter wrote:
perhaps you could explain what you hope the outcome of these judges attending trials would be?


One thing would be to see if they could understand the correct movement for our breed, why it moves the way it does, by seeing it in action in the field.  So many all rounders just don't have a clue.

But that is purely a parochial view.  I would hope that in addition to that all new CC judges would get an insight into the reason for Field Trials, and also to see the differences in style between the HPR breeds, and also between HPRs and other gundogs.

But I had hoped people on here would welcome this announcement as a step towards the show and working side being able to communicate.  Perhaps I was wrong.

Yes I probably am over sensitive. John H can I am sure testify to that. Is it a bad thing to be enthusiastic and to be annoyed by negativity?
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magyar viz



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Location: Lincolnshire

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having only been to one show & only one breed present I cannot comment,
it does seem strange to me this doesnot happen & the wording "have" to attend, i would have thought they would want to attend.
Fair play to kc for getting the ball rolling (nobody likes change) & getting things moving, for some it will be a tick on the cv but maybe some will see what the breed's are really meant to do, look like, move like & act like & things will move on for the better  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a good ideal, but it is a shame it is only for new judges and does nothing to stop present judges putting up lame, bad moving or over sized dogs Twisted Evil which clearly are not 'fit for function'

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a step in the right direction! Very Happy  But what would happen with the likes of the 'show gundog' breeds like the Am cocker etc!?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I probably am over sensitive. John H can I am sure testify to that. Is it a bad thing to be enthusiastic and to be annoyed by negativity?


Yes, no, no Wink  Laughing  Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it is a step in the right direction for some breeds - Labs would also be most interesting  Shocked   Apparently, American Cockers look completely different in the States and do work.  I didn't know  Embarassed ; I thought they were all 'pyjama' case dogs (I have a friend who wants a dog that looks like the pyjama case she had as a child  Rolling Eyes )

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